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7 total messages Started by Laurence Bartrum Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:00
Network Traffic monitoring (4.11 Server)
#33
Author: Laurence Bartrum
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:00
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Can you please help me ?

Is there a way I can monitor the traffic on a Novell 4.11 Server with
95' Clients and a Bnc network using a laptop and some kind monitoring
software (that is either free or trial if possible!).
I have Tried Intellimax's Lan Explorer 3.0 but I could only get the
traffic between my laptop and the Server, and I really don't want to
splash out on a RMON Probe as they MAD expensive.
If any of you Guru's out could help me I would be Grateful.

regards
Laurence
Re: Network Traffic monitoring (4.11 Server)
#34
Author: George Hellinger
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:00
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As long as you're on shared media, ie a hub, you can use a multitude of
monitoring tools.  If on a switch, your options are to use an RMON probe
in-line, or mirror the switch port, if this option is available on your
hardware.
Re: Network Traffic monitoring (4.11 Server)
#35
Author: J�rg Focke
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1999 00:00
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Hello Laurence,

if you have Windows NT on your Notebook, you can install the
netware-monitor. As long as you are on a shared (and not switched) ethernet
you will get a lot of informations.
J�rg Focke

Laurence Bartrum schrieb in Nachricht <36A8B406.F8F732B7@rcsuk.co.uk>...
>Can you please help me ?
>
>Is there a way I can monitor the traffic on a Novell 4.11 Server with
>95' Clients and a Bnc network using a laptop and some kind monitoring
>software (that is either free or trial if possible!).
>I have Tried Intellimax's Lan Explorer 3.0 but I could only get the
>traffic between my laptop and the Server, and I really don't want to
>splash out on a RMON Probe as they MAD expensive.
>If any of you Guru's out could help me I would be Grateful.
>
>regards
>Laurence
>
>
Re: Network Traffic monitoring (4.11 Server)
#30
Author: Nez
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:00
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It is called Network Monitor. Yes you will get a lot of packets...but only from
or to your NIC. C2 security requires this and microsoft is finally( sort of )
compliant as well. You can only capture packets on the NIC you are monitoring.
I suggest you use the nlm provided with netware( monitor ) if you are looking
for net stats. I don't think anybody can run their NIC's in promiscuous mode
anymore.

"J�rg Focke" wrote:

> Hello Laurence,
>
> if you have Windows NT on your Notebook, you can install the
> netware-monitor. As long as you are on a shared (and not switched) ethernet
> you will get a lot of informations.
> J�rg Focke
>
> Laurence Bartrum schrieb in Nachricht <36A8B406.F8F732B7@rcsuk.co.uk>...
> >Can you please help me ?
> >
> >Is there a way I can monitor the traffic on a Novell 4.11 Server with
> >95' Clients and a Bnc network using a laptop and some kind monitoring
> >software (that is either free or trial if possible!).
> >I have Tried Intellimax's Lan Explorer 3.0 but I could only get the
> >traffic between my laptop and the Server, and I really don't want to
> >splash out on a RMON Probe as they MAD expensive.
> >If any of you Guru's out could help me I would be Grateful.
> >
> >regards
> >Laurence
> >
> >
Re: Network Traffic monitoring (4.11 Server)
#31
Author: Franz -STAR- Starhan
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 00:00
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Nez wrote:
> It is called Network Monitor. Yes you will get a lot of packets...but only
> from or to your NIC. C2 security requires this and microsoft is finally
> (sort of) compliant as well. You can only capture packets on the NIC you
> are monitoring. I suggest you use the nlm provided with netware (monitor)
> if you are looking for net stats. I don't think anybody can run their NIC's
> in promiscuous mode anymore.

This has nothing to do with C2 and it is not true either.
Fact is, that Network Monitor, as in NT Server, is only capable of
capturing data your NIC is involved in, i.e. from/to and broadcast
traffic. However, with SMS Server, the Enterprise Edition of Network
Monitor is installed and can be used to capture any and all data
available on the network, as long as it is shared media, as some
others have already pointed out.

-STAR-

-- 
Franz -STAR- Starhan, Ing. MCSE - "A STAR in global communication"
http://www.kapsch.net/ * mailto:starhan@kapsch.net * ICQ: 15263189
Re: Network Traffic monitoring (4.11 Server)
#32
Author: Steve Robb
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1999 00:00
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What's all this babble about NT about?

Simple answer. Netware doesn't come with a Network Monitoring tool. Its
a separate (and not cheap) product called LANAlyzer - and its pretty
good. You can use it to monitor all traffic on a network segment, be it
ethernet, token-ring or FDDI. The comment made about Switches causing
problems is correct though.

There are a number of similar third-party products out there but I don't
know of any that are free - these are pretty specialised products. One
thing to always note though, the network card that you use to capture
the data must support Promiscuous Mode, otherwise it will ignore all the
invalid data which you probably want to know about.

Hope this helps.

Steve Robb
Re: Network Traffic monitoring (4.11 Server)
#29
Author: Reverend Ted
Date: Sun, 07 Feb 1999 00:00
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Try LANalyzer. Before going that route, ensure that your NIC drivers can do
promiscuous mode. There's an excellent  Novell Press book by Laura Chappel
on using this tool to do exactly what you're talking about.

You won't find LANalyzer for free, but you'll find that it's much cheaper
than a Data General Sniffer.

Laurence Bartrum wrote in message <36A8B406.F8F732B7@rcsuk.co.uk>...
>Can you please help me ?
>
>Is there a way I can monitor the traffic on a Novell 4.11 Server with
>95' Clients and a Bnc network using a laptop and some kind monitoring
>software (that is either free or trial if possible!).
>I have Tried Intellimax's Lan Explorer 3.0 but I could only get the
>traffic between my laptop and the Server, and I really don't want to
>splash out on a RMON Probe as they MAD expensive.
>If any of you Guru's out could help me I would be Grateful.
>
>regards
>Laurence
>
>
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