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Article #147Re: @Home Blacklisted by ORBS on 9 of 10 New Email Servers
From: Dima Volodin
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:42
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:42
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Mike Stump wrote: > > In article <3A4CACDA.70CCE7DC@dvv.org>, Dima Volodin <dvv@dvv.org> wrote: > >Mike Stump wrote: > >> ORBS and MAPS are similar, we throw the baby out with > >> the bathwater, and exclude them. The lists attempt to excommunicate, > >> if I may use that word, people that don't conform to our societies > >> norms. > > > >ORBS and MAPS are _not_ similar. > > Look, you know the ways in which they are and aren't. This isn't > productive. But, if you insist... > > In the context I gave, wich was meant to be a more limited context > than you interpreted it, they are in fact similar. They both will > list IP addresses, sometimes in bulk (more than a single IP address), > knowing full well that doing so will at times cause legitimate email > to bounce. In this _one_ instance, they are similar. They are also > similar in other ways as well, such as the way they use DNS to serve > the content of their lists. They are also similar in the way they are > used by people. There are lots of other similarities. But this is > beside the point. I don't really care whether it's DNS or BGP or UPS trucks or avian carriers, all I care about is how IP numbers end up on these lists - that's what defines the usefulness of these lists to general public. Dima
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fa874,20ce3a920b14a2e4 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa874,public X-Google-Thread: 113850,20ce3a920b14a2e4 X-Google-Attributes: gid113850,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-01-03 08:43:02 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!mtu.ru!news2.aha.ru!demos!demos2!demos!dnews-server From: Dima Volodin <dvv@dvv.org> Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems.cable,ba.internet Subject: Re: @Home Blacklisted by ORBS on 9 of 10 New Email Servers Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:42:07 -0500 Organization: Huh? Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3A53565F.ED1CD856@dvv.org> References: <3A4997AD.B58ACAD5@spamcop.net> <slrn94le7k.rp.plew@crane.li-po.edu> <G6B3qv.7zq@kithrup.com> <3A4CACDA.70CCE7DC@dvv.org> <G6KHIn.LJ8@kithrup.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ultra1.demos.su Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: jumbo.demos.su 978540177 21487 194.87.2.30 (3 Jan 2001 19:42:57 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jan 2001 16:42:57 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,ru,de