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Re: @Home Blacklisted by ORBS on 9 of 10 New Email Servers

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From: Dima Volodin
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 16:42
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Mike Stump wrote:
> 
> In article <3A4CACDA.70CCE7DC@dvv.org>, Dima Volodin  <dvv@dvv.org> wrote:
> >Mike Stump wrote:
> >> ORBS and MAPS are similar, we throw the baby out with
> >> the bathwater, and exclude them.  The lists attempt to excommunicate,
> >> if I may use that word, people that don't conform to our societies
> >> norms.
> >
> >ORBS and MAPS  are _not_ similar.
> 
> Look, you know the ways in which they are and aren't.  This isn't
> productive.  But, if you insist...
> 
> In the context I gave, wich was meant to be a more limited context
> than you interpreted it, they are in fact similar.  They both will
> list IP addresses, sometimes in bulk (more than a single IP address),
> knowing full well that doing so will at times cause legitimate email
> to bounce.  In this _one_ instance, they are similar.  They are also
> similar in other ways as well, such as the way they use DNS to serve
> the content of their lists.  They are also similar in the way they are
> used by people.  There are lots of other similarities.  But this is
> beside the point.

I don't really care whether it's DNS or BGP or UPS trucks or avian
carriers, all I care about is how IP numbers end up on these lists -
that's what defines the usefulness of these lists to general public.


Dima
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From: Dima Volodin <dvv@dvv.org>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems.cable,ba.internet
Subject: Re: @Home Blacklisted by ORBS on 9 of 10 New Email Servers
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 11:42:07 -0500
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