Re: @Home Blacklisted by ORBS on 9 of 10 New Email Servers

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From: John Navas
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 23:44

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In <G6Lwop.2op@kithrup.com>, mrs@kithrup.com (Mike Stump) wrote:

>In article <3A53565F.ED1CD856@dvv.org>, Dima Volodin  <dvv@dvv.org> wrote:
>>Mike Stump wrote:
>>I don't really care whether it's DNS or BGP or UPS trucks or avian
>>carriers, all I care about is how IP numbers end up on these lists -
>>that's what defines the usefulness of these lists to general public.
>
>And we have yet to see the proof that it isn't nearly identical to the
>MAPS RSS list.  Someone gets spam, submits the complaint, and if it
>relays, on the list it goes.  QED.  Thanks for playing.

Except that it doesn't actually work that way in practice (and you know
it).

-- 
Best regards,
John Navas     <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
ORBS   n.  Internet vigilantes that try to coerce ISP's into complying
with the ORBS agenda by intentionally punishing innocent victims.
Over 90% of ORBS-listed hosts haven't been shown to be sources of spam.

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arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!supernews.google.com!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!typhoon.sonic.net!not-for-mail

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<3A4997AD.B58ACAD5@spamcop.net> <3A4CACDA.70CCE7DC@dvv.org> <G6KHIn.LJ8@kithrup.com> <3A53565F.ED1CD856@dvv.org> <G6Lwop.2op@kithrup.com>

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From: John Navas <spamfilter@navasgrp.dublin.ca.us>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems.cable,ba.internet
Subject: Re: @Home Blacklisted by ORBS on 9 of 10 New Email Servers
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