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Article #496Re: cable guy "vapor"-izes DSL 3X cable TV troll!
From: Lawrence Baldwin
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 14:42
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 14:42
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I didn't think the amount of upstream bandwidth was even THAT high, Randy. Ingress noise just KILLS upstream bandwidth...this doesn't happen on the fiber part of HFC, but you still have quite a bit of coax. I thought it was much < 10Mbps potential, and reduced even further due to noise issues. "Randy S." wrote: > > Well, let's see, I believe a cable segment supports 54 Mbps download and 20 Mbps upload > typically (I believe that they can vary this by how many channels they dedicate to > delivery, I think there is 27 Mpbs down and 10 Mbps up per channel) . If a segment has say > 270 users on it (assuming a 100:1 oversubscription ratio that John used as typical for DSL > earlier), each capped at 2 Mbps download, 384 Kbps upload (I think that's typical?) it > would take 20,000 / 384 = 52 users uploading at maximum rate to saturate the upstream > stream. Of course since many other people are ALSO uploading at normal rates, the real > number would be somewhat lower. Realistically, I would say 25-35 people uploading > aggressively would effectively "kill" the segment. Does that sound right, John? The > kicker here is that this would happen even if they were all just uploading files to others > on the same segment! > > Randy S. -- ------------------------- Lawrence Baldwin Protocol Scientist 678-624-0924 http://www.mynetwatchman.com - I'm under attack, now what?
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