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Article #501Re: cable guy "vapor"-izes DSL 3X cable TV troll!
From: Lawrence Baldwin
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 17:29
Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2001 17:29
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"Randy S." wrote: > > > Even though bandwidth between the DSLAM and aggregation router is > > assymetric (e.g. 45Mbps full-duplex), you could still saturate upstream > > before downstream, depending on what users are doing. > > I assume you meant SYMMETRIC here? ;-) yeah...ooops. > > I think I was describing essentially the same thing before (at least that's > what I was TRYING to say). But as you say, I don't think this would be very > likely on DSL. I think John is saying that this is MUCH more likely to happen > on Cable due to the shared ASYMMETRICAL upstream channel. At least by the time > the DSL upstream channel is shared, it's symmetrical. In general I agree, but I'm trying to avoid making conclusions based on speculation. What I think this all comes down is NOT that all aspects of cable infrastucture are shared and all but ONE of ADSL infrastructure is shared. Rather, when you compare the same layers of both how much upstream sharing and how much downstream sharing is going on? > I wonder if any Network engineers responsible for backbone maintenance are > reading this. I bet their blood pressure just went up! ;-) Worse yet folks at ATT that concluded that cable is best architecture for broadband deployment and bet their business on massive acquisitions. I may be wrong here, but I think in 2-3 years we'll see that was a $100B mistake. How many DSL customers (and how much effective bandwidth) could you reach for $100B? AND, most importantly, how does it scale from there. Come on, where are the cable infrastructure engineers...I don't pretend to understand that side of the house...I be happy for someone to prove me wrong since my first broadband access option could very well be ATT Broadband. -- ------------------------- Lawrence Baldwin Protocol Scientist 678-624-0924 http://www.mynetwatchman.com - I'm under attack, now what?
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