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Re: New cox cable managed network

#576
From: Derek M. Loseke
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 19:51
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The outlet can be added by either.  Most of the time, it is added by the
CHSI tech, unless a wall fish is required, in which case the outlet is added
by a tech (contractor in Omaha) to fish the wire, and a broadband tech does
the install.

Actually, there is exception if there is a flush mount meter, and no way to
ground inside if the interior is finished.  However, you can ground to a
piece of conduit if it is proven as grounded.  It that doens't work, there
is cold water, though cold water is often not a good enough ground.  And
there is always a ground rod, 5/8" x 8' into the ground.  However, there are
more specifics to all of these, as mandated by FCC regulations and the
National Electric Code.

Actually, I am having a problem with my Windows XP not agreeing with my
motherboard chipset and my Promise 100.  Therefore, I can only access when I
have the time to tinker with it.

Derek



"PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:JK1b8.8244$SJ3.286841@news1.east.cox.net...
> > As you can see as Mr. Hobbs has said, there is much more work than
> plugging
> > it in.  According to Standard Operating Procedure, the drop is to be of
a
> > newer style we are now using, that has a small pair or wires on the
side.
> > This is often used to telephony.  Many times a jack needs to be added,
and
> > that is most of the time run on the outside of the house.
>
> And when needed, should have been added by a cable tech, not a broadband
> tech.
> That is SOP.
>
> >  The drop is to be
> > located to the power meter for proper grounding, and a wire should be
run
> to
> > there from the existing house box, or old drop that is spliced.  Though
I
> > have find many times that SOP is not followed, it is ALWAYS supposed to
> be,
> > with special exception in cases where grouding is not always possible to
> the
> > meter.  The drop is always to follow power, meaning that it is to hang
> > paralled with it, from the same pole, to the same place at the house.
> Even
> > in cases of an underground drop,  it is to either be relocated to the
> power
> > meter by means of laying a temp drop to be buried at a later date, or
> > splicing the drop if it is good, and running it to the power meter for
> > proper grounding.
>
> Required by law in most areas so there is no "special exception"
>
> >
> > As for the software, everything is fully DHCP.  DNS servers IP, gateway
> IP,
> > subnet mask, machine IP, email settings, proxy settings, newsgroup
> settings,
> > and the like is all taken care of by the software.
>
> Nope, it is not handled by the software.
> And what do you suppose this unskilled tech will do when arriving at a
home
> where NO networking enviroment is even installed on the PC? Or he put's
this
> magic CD you refer to in and things don't go as planned? Is it than  SOP
to
> say, "sorry, the CD failed on your system so you don't get broadband
> internet because I am clueless!"
>
> > The current exception to
> > this is when converting a user from dialup or another HSI service, there
> are
> > often times residual setting in Outlook to old email accounts that
cannot
> be
> > accessed through our system, so yes, sometimes some things need to be
set
> > manually, but the main purpose of the software is to eliminate the need
> for
> > the installers.  The idea is that a customer can take a modem home, plug
> it
> > in, install the software, and they're up and running.  There will of
> course
> > be some techs around to troubleshoot failed self installs, and do
installs
> > for people who don't trust their own installations skills, but the
purpose
> > of the software is the eliminate the wasted payroll that techs use up
for
> > installs that the customer can do themselves.
> >
> > It seems that you do not have knowledge of the Cox software quite as
well
> as
> > the average installer, or computer junkie.  However, you do appear the
> know
> > the basics from a books point of view, and you may have some knowledge
in
> a
> > practical point of view, but it has not been demonstrated as so here
just
> > yet.
>
> Now, at this point you may want to ask who helped make possiblle the
> "Advanced Users Click Here" option which appeared on the support site. I
am
> much more knowledgeable about the CD than you think. By the way, are the
UBR
> and NetScreen issues resolved in your area?
>
> >
> > However, if you wish the further pursue this trivial online argument
about
> > factual information (not opinion), I will continue to do so at my
> > opportunity.
> >
> As soon as you have opportunity to get the facts I would imagine.
> Perhaps after your DNS and NetBIOS naming classes   :)
>
>
>
> >
> > "Jack Hobbs" <jhobbs1@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:S4Ra8.6327$SJ3.221438@news1.east.cox.net...
> > > My house is 28 years old.  The Cox installers pulled new cable from
the
> > > pedestal to my house, then new cable through the attic, down to the
> modem.
> > > The weather wasn't California billboard quality- I felt a bit sorry
for
> > > them.
> > >
> > > "PC Medic" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:nnPa8.6168$SJ3.212179@news1.east.cox.net...
> > > >
> > > > "Derek M. Loseke" <spamderek@cox.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:ShIa8.4164$SJ3.170583@news1.east.cox.net...
> > > > > Not that skilled help is necessarily hard to find here, but why on
> > earth
> > > > > would anyone who knows any better want to be installing cable
modems
> > for
> > > > $10
> > > > > an hour working in the weather year round when you could be making
> > over
> > > > > $30,000 a year to start by, in some cases, doing near nothing.
> > > >
> > > > "Working in the weather all year round"?? Just how many outdoor
cable
> > > modems
> > > > have you had to install?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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