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In article <9gtlgsg5beiom78n0lfbnee43nqtdbm6b0@4ax.com>, Unknown <Someone@some.com> wrote:
>I tried the Zone Alarm 2.1? I believe? and it seemed to cause problems
>with my system, including, but not limited to slowdown. (after
>clicking on Windows explorer it would take almost 5 minutes before the
>window would actually appear, for example)
>
>Anyhow can someone recomend an easy to use, yet good firewall program,
>that is "compatible" with Intel anypoint phone line sharing network
>adaptor? Thanks..
>
>FYI, I'm running Win98 on a P2/400 64 Ram

What version of IE are you using? Version 5.5 caused me alot of the delay lag 
you described until I restored 5.01. 

BlackICE, from   http://www.networkice.com   works nicely!  Very low
overhead, non-intrusive.

Bill Crocker


"Unknown" <Someone@some.com> wrote in message
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> I tried the Zone Alarm 2.1? I believe? and it seemed to cause problems
> with my system, including, but not limited to slowdown. (after
> clicking on Windows explorer it would take almost 5 minutes before the
> window would actually appear, for example)
>
> Anyhow can someone recomend an easy to use, yet good firewall program,
> that is "compatible" with Intel anypoint phone line sharing network
> adaptor? Thanks..
>
> FYI, I'm running Win98 on a P2/400 64 Ram

Black Ice is _not_ a firewall, its a port listener.

/Alex


On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Bill Crocker wrote:
>BlackICE, from   http://www.networkice.com   works nicely!  Very low
>overhead, non-intrusive.
>
>Bill Crocker
>
>
>"Unknown" <Someone@some.com> wrote in message
>news:9gtlgsg5beiom78n0lfbnee43nqtdbm6b0@4ax.com...
>> I tried the Zone Alarm 2.1? I believe? and it seemed to cause problems
>> with my system, including, but not limited to slowdown. (after
>> clicking on Windows explorer it would take almost 5 minutes before the
>> window would actually appear, for example)
>>
>> Anyhow can someone recomend an easy to use, yet good firewall program,
>> that is "compatible" with Intel anypoint phone line sharing network
>> adaptor? Thanks..
>>
>> FYI, I'm running Win98 on a P2/400 64 Ram

"Alex F. Evonosky" <alexevon@alexevon.com> wrote in message
news:957023998.728607016@news.prestige.net...
| Black Ice is _not_ a firewall, its a port listener.
|
| /Alex
|
|


WRONG it's an"intrusion detection system" it monitors and BLOCKS, incoming
only, 'attacks'.  You might read up BEFORE you post incorrect
information...... www.networkice.com
http://www.networkice.com/Products/BlackICE/default.htm


James

Bill Crocker <bcrocker@home.com> wrote:
>BlackICE, from   http://www.networkice.com   works nicely!  Very low
>overhead, non-intrusive.

It's also badly named, it should be able to kill hackers.

-- 
http://inquisitor.i.am/    |  mailto:inquisitor@i.am |             Ian Stirling.
---------------------------+-------------------------+--------------------------
If God hadn't intended us to eat animals, 
He wouldn't have made them out of MEAT!                           - John Cleese

wrong,

a _true_ firewall  segments a public network with a private network through NAT
or PNAT, not an application such as BID that resides in the taskbar.  They
market it as a firewall, but in all terminology its not, just a basic port
listener that opens all your ports and listens for incoming SYN_PKTsS.  

Look at the code, you'll see.

Read before you post!

/Alex


On Sat, 29 Apr 2000, Poleclimber wrote:
>"Alex F. Evonosky" <alexevon@alexevon.com> wrote in message
>news:957023998.728607016@news.prestige.net...
>| Black Ice is _not_ a firewall, its a port listener.
>|
>| /Alex
>|
>|
>
>
>WRONG it's an"intrusion detection system" it monitors and BLOCKS, incoming
>only, 'attacks'.  You might read up BEFORE you post incorrect
>information...... www.networkice.com
>http://www.networkice.com/Products/BlackICE/default.htm
>
>
>James

"Alex F. Evonosky" <alexevon@alexevon.com> wrote in message
news:957070211.1381174735@news.prestige.net...
| wrong,
|
| a _true_ firewall  segments a public network with a private network
through NAT
| or PNAT, not an application such as BID that resides in the taskbar.  They
| market it as a firewall, but in all terminology its not, just a basic port
| listener that opens all your ports and listens for incoming SYN_PKTsS.
|
| Look at the code, you'll see.
|
| Read before you post!
|
| /Alex
|


WRONG

A port listener will only open ports and listen, not do anything....  BID
will block so called attacks. Now I never said BID is a firewall. So maybe
you should put on your glasses old man and read carefully what I said. It is
what I said, an intrusion detection system.



James

As I will not flame you since you apparently do not know a difference between a
port listener and a firewall..  Just another windows user that fell into the
trap of pure marketing endevours.  Dropping subject, hate to carry on w/ an
unarmed user.  ;)





On Sun, 30 Apr 2000, Poleclimber wrote:
>"Alex F. Evonosky" <alexevon@alexevon.com> wrote in message
>news:957070211.1381174735@news.prestige.net...
>| wrong,
>|
>| a _true_ firewall  segments a public network with a private network
>through NAT
>| or PNAT, not an application such as BID that resides in the taskbar.  They
>| market it as a firewall, but in all terminology its not, just a basic port
>| listener that opens all your ports and listens for incoming SYN_PKTsS.
>|
>| Look at the code, you'll see.
>|
>| Read before you post!
>|
>| /Alex
>|
>
>
>WRONG
>
>A port listener will only open ports and listen, not do anything....  BID
>will block so called attacks. Now I never said BID is a firewall. So maybe
>you should put on your glasses old man and read carefully what I said. It is
>what I said, an intrusion detection system.
>
>
>
>James

On Sun, 30 Apr 2000 03:51:16 GMT, Alex F. Evonosky
<alexevon@alexevon.com> wrote:

>wrong,
>
>a _true_ firewall  segments a public network with a private network through NAT
>or PNAT, not an application such as BID that resides in the taskbar. 

A firewall allows you to block or allow connections through selected
ports or port ranges. The way you use it is independent of it being a
firewall or not. You can use a firewall, for instance, to segment a
_private_ network from another segment of the same _private_ network.
It need not be used only to segment a private network from a public
network. 

>They market it as a firewall, but in all terminology its not, just a basic port
>listener that opens all your ports and listens for incoming SYN_PKTsS.  

What do you call a port listener that can also block selected
activity? It's not just a port listener anymore.

>Look at the code, you'll see.

You've looked at the code for BlackIceDefender? How do you
characterize its ability to block ports as being a port listener?

You might want to check out www.zonelabs.com.

Zone Alarm is the program name.  

Morgan

Does a true firewall have to be set up in a separate box upstream of my
desktop/laptop Lan? Or can I install an run an software firewall on my
desktop (ie my Lan server).  I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
Jim�

"Ian Stirling" <Inquisitor@I.am> wrote in message
news:zMLO4.764$Vv4.346604@news-west.usenetserver.com...
> Bill Crocker <bcrocker@home.com> wrote:
> >BlackICE, from   http://www.networkice.com   works nicely!  Very low
> >overhead, non-intrusive.
>
> It's also badly named, it should be able to kill hackers.
>
> --
> http://inquisitor.i.am/    |  mailto:inquisitor@i.am |             Ian
Stirling.
> ---------------------------+-------------------------+--------------------
------
> If God hadn't intended us to eat animals,
> He wouldn't have made them out of MEAT!                           - John
Cleese
>
>

The less programs running on the box = less opertunities for a crack.
I run a firewall box in front of my serfing box.

Why not read about some program cracks.
	 http://www.cert.org/advisories/


On Sun, 28 May 2000 01:23:41 GMT, Jim� <jfvr@home.com> wrote:
>Does a true firewall have to be set up in a separate box upstream of my
>desktop/laptop Lan? Or can I install an run an software firewall on my
>desktop (ie my Lan server).  I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
>Jim�

BT:
Much appreciated.
Jim�

"Bit Twister" <BitTwister@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
news:slrn8j10t9.mi.BitTwister@wb.home...
> The less programs running on the box = less opertunities for a crack.
> I run a firewall box in front of my serfing box.
>
> Why not read about some program cracks.
> http://www.cert.org/advisories/
>
>
> On Sun, 28 May 2000 01:23:41 GMT, Jim� <jfvr@home.com> wrote:
> >Does a true firewall have to be set up in a separate box upstream of my
> >desktop/laptop Lan? Or can I install an run an software firewall on my
> >desktop (ie my Lan server).  I'd appreciate any suggestions. Thanks.
> >Jim�