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5 total messages Started by Bruce Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:27
Comcast Self-install/Router Recommendation
#18
Author: Bruce
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 17:27
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Hi,

Six girls will be sharing a 3-bedroom, 2-story apartment near UC Davis, 
CA, when the fall quarter starts.  For tv, they will have the standard 
(extended basic) package from Comcast.  For internet, five want SBC 
Yahoo! DSL, and one (my daughter) wants Comcast.  Some of the SBCers may 
later move over to Comcast if the DSL service is poor.  (The CO is 11,424 
feet from the apartment address.)  Or, the opposite could happen.

I'm in charge of getting Comcast tv and internet set up. Comcast tells me 
that the apartment address does have cable tv capabilities, but the 
service is turned off. I believe the current tenants moved out this week.  
I don't know if it ever had Comcast internet, so I don't know the 
condition of the line.

Comcast is scheduled to turn the tv on and drop off a self-install 
internet kit in two weeks.  I'll drive up there to accept the kit and set 
it up. I have a few questions about self-install and wireless routers.

The last time I did a self install was when you had to connect to an SAS 
region to provision the modem.  I see that it's different these days.

http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/comcast/2.1+Modems#11356

According to this faq, one has to use the Comcast software provided to 
provision the modem.  The SAS method is no longer used.  The faq states 
that you may be able to 'ditch' the setup procedure once provisioned, 
thereby avoiding the installation of any other Comcast software and 
browser branding.  Has anyone done a self-install lately that can advise 
me on this?

When I set up the self-install with the representative over the phone, he 
only took the address of the install and my daughter's name.  Should we 
have at least chosen an account name so that it would be in their 
database when we did the self-install?

I have to have wired and wireless capabilities.  Some machines that will 
be using Comcast are wired only, and some also have wireless 
capabilities.  These are desktops and notebooks, upstairs and downstairs.

Someone else is setting up the SBC Yahoo! DSL which will also be wired 
and wireless.  Will these two wireless signals peacefull coexist?

Since there will be a high density of wireless users in the area, I need 
to select a router that will provide good security.  I've been looking at 
the following, but I have to admit it's beyond me to decipher what's 
important and what's marketting.  Should I automatically eliminate any of 
these?  (I have an old D-link 514 in my house now, that works fine, but I 
suspect security capabilites have long since passed this one up.)

D-link 524, 624
Netgear WGR614, WGT624, WPN824NA
Linksys WRT54G, WRT54GC, WRT54GS

I've asked a lot in this note, so if you get this far, thanks in advance.

Sincerely,
Bruce
Re: Comcast Self-install/Router Recommendation
#19
Author: plew
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:03
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On 2005-08-21, Bruce <parcxman@netscape.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Six girls will be sharing a 3-bedroom, 2-story apartment near UC Davis, 
> CA, when the fall quarter starts.  For tv, they will have the standard 
> (extended basic) package from Comcast.  For internet, five want SBC 
> Yahoo! DSL, and one (my daughter) wants Comcast.  Some of the SBCers may 
> later move over to Comcast if the DSL service is poor.  (The CO is 11,424 
> feet from the apartment address.)  Or, the opposite could happen.
>
> I'm in charge of getting Comcast tv and internet set up. Comcast tells me 
> that the apartment address does have cable tv capabilities, but the 
> service is turned off. I believe the current tenants moved out this week.  
> I don't know if it ever had Comcast internet, so I don't know the 
> condition of the line.
>
> Comcast is scheduled to turn the tv on and drop off a self-install 
> internet kit in two weeks.  I'll drive up there to accept the kit and set 
> it up. I have a few questions about self-install and wireless routers.
>
> The last time I did a self install was when you had to connect to an SAS 
> region to provision the modem.  I see that it's different these days.
>
> http://www.broadbandreports.com/faq/comcast/2.1+Modems#11356
>
> According to this faq, one has to use the Comcast software provided to 
> provision the modem.  The SAS method is no longer used.  The faq states 
> that you may be able to 'ditch' the setup procedure once provisioned, 
> thereby avoiding the installation of any other Comcast software and 
> browser branding.  Has anyone done a self-install lately that can advise 
> me on this?
>
> When I set up the self-install with the representative over the phone, he 
> only took the address of the install and my daughter's name.  Should we 
> have at least chosen an account name so that it would be in their 
> database when we did the self-install?
>
> I have to have wired and wireless capabilities.  Some machines that will 
> be using Comcast are wired only, and some also have wireless 
> capabilities.  These are desktops and notebooks, upstairs and downstairs.
>
> Someone else is setting up the SBC Yahoo! DSL which will also be wired 
> and wireless.  Will these two wireless signals peacefull coexist?
>
> Since there will be a high density of wireless users in the area, I need 
> to select a router that will provide good security.  I've been looking at 
> the following, but I have to admit it's beyond me to decipher what's 
> important and what's marketting.  Should I automatically eliminate any of 
> these?  (I have an old D-link 514 in my house now, that works fine, but I 
> suspect security capabilites have long since passed this one up.)
>
> D-link 524, 624
> Netgear WGR614, WGT624, WPN824NA
> Linksys WRT54G, WRT54GC, WRT54GS
>
> I've asked a lot in this note, so if you get this far, thanks in advance.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bruce

I had moved into my new apartment in 3 months ago & didn't need to 
install Comcast software to do a new connection.  When I started 
the browser, it was an automatic send to the "self-install" site
where some prompts were done.  ahem, there was a huge bug at the
self-install/provisioning site where one just kept looping back
to the main menu.

My solution was to call Comcast tech & they told me about the bug
& setup my connection from their (comcast's) end.  Another problem
cropped up due to my router's cache (netgear fr114p) which kept
finding the self-provisioning site & not too many other sites; 
solution was to unplug the router, wait 10 secs (counted to 15) &
replug the router.

If the website has been fixed, then it would just prompt you for
info as in account number (listed on the bill), etc.
Re: Comcast Self-install/Router Recommendation
#20
Author: Claude J Ortega
Date: Sun, 21 Aug 2005 20:35
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In article <Xns96B96A7674788parcxmannetscapenet@216.196.97.136>, 
parcxman@netscape.net says...
> Hi,
 <snip>
> 
> Since there will be a high density of wireless users in the area, I need 
> to select a router that will provide good security.  I've been looking at 
> the following, but I have to admit it's beyond me to decipher what's 
> important and what's marketting.  Should I automatically eliminate any of 
> these?  (I have an old D-link 514 in my house now, that works fine, but I 
> suspect security capabilites have long since passed this one up.)
> 
> D-link 524, 624
> Netgear WGR614, WGT624, WPN824NA
> Linksys WRT54G, WRT54GC, WRT54GS
> 
> I've asked a lot in this note, so if you get this far, thanks in advance.
> 
> Sincerely,
> Bruce
> 

Do a google search for network stumbler (freeware), running it on a wireless 
system will list the WAP's that are in range.

Also airsnare, which will list attempts to access your WAP.

-- 
Claude
Re: Comcast Self-install/Router Recommendation
#17
Author: Philip J. Koenig
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 17:21
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In article <Xns96B96A7674788parcxmannetscapenet@216.196.97.136>, 
parcxman@netscape.net (Bruce) writes...

> I have to have wired and wireless capabilities.  Some machines that will 
> be using Comcast are wired only, and some also have wireless 
> capabilities.  These are desktops and notebooks, upstairs and downstairs.
> 
> Someone else is setting up the SBC Yahoo! DSL which will also be wired 
> and wireless.  Will these two wireless signals peacefull coexist?
> 
> Since there will be a high density of wireless users in the area, I need 
> to select a router that will provide good security.  I've been looking at 
> the following, but I have to admit it's beyond me to decipher what's 
> important and what's marketting.  Should I automatically eliminate any of 
> these?  (I have an old D-link 514 in my house now, that works fine, but I 
> suspect security capabilites have long since passed this one up.)
> 
> D-link 524, 624
> Netgear WGR614, WGT624, WPN824NA
> Linksys WRT54G, WRT54GC, WRT54GS


Motorola makes a decent DOCSIS (cable) modem that includes
a WiFi access point.  Friend of mine uses this and it works
fine, and has a decent configurable firewall function.  It
was purchased retail somewhere. (Best Buy?)

As for wireless security, AFAIK it doesn't support WPA, but
it does support WEP.  You can make WEP a little more secure 
by tweaking certain parameters like MAC restrictions and 
SSID broadcast, depends on how far you want to take this. 
I personally keep having weird problems getting WPA to work
on XP boxes, and if anyone is using older OS's it could
also be an issue to get WPA working, so keep that in mind.



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Re: Comcast Self-install/Router Recommendation
#16
Author: Ron Hunter
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:33
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Philip J. Koenig wrote:
> In article <Xns96B96A7674788parcxmannetscapenet@216.196.97.136>, 
> parcxman@netscape.net (Bruce) writes...
> 
>> I have to have wired and wireless capabilities.  Some machines that will 
>> be using Comcast are wired only, and some also have wireless 
>> capabilities.  These are desktops and notebooks, upstairs and downstairs.
>>
>> Someone else is setting up the SBC Yahoo! DSL which will also be wired 
>> and wireless.  Will these two wireless signals peacefull coexist?
>>
>> Since there will be a high density of wireless users in the area, I need 
>> to select a router that will provide good security.  I've been looking at 
>> the following, but I have to admit it's beyond me to decipher what's 
>> important and what's marketting.  Should I automatically eliminate any of 
>> these?  (I have an old D-link 514 in my house now, that works fine, but I 
>> suspect security capabilites have long since passed this one up.)
>>
>> D-link 524, 624
>> Netgear WGR614, WGT624, WPN824NA
>> Linksys WRT54G, WRT54GC, WRT54GS
> 
> 
> Motorola makes a decent DOCSIS (cable) modem that includes
> a WiFi access point.  Friend of mine uses this and it works
> fine, and has a decent configurable firewall function.  It
> was purchased retail somewhere. (Best Buy?)
> 
> As for wireless security, AFAIK it doesn't support WPA, but
> it does support WEP.  You can make WEP a little more secure 
> by tweaking certain parameters like MAC restrictions and 
> SSID broadcast, depends on how far you want to take this. 
> I personally keep having weird problems getting WPA to work
> on XP boxes, and if anyone is using older OS's it could
> also be an issue to get WPA working, so keep that in mind.
> 
> 
> 
No problems here with XP and WPA on a Linksys WRT54G.  Easy setup, and 
the only problem I see is that if I hibernate the laptop a lot of times, 
it may not reconnect and require a reboot.  Maybe once a week.


-- 
Ron Hunter  rphunter@charter.net
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