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Article #2242IOS exploit: please disclose vehicle, not mechanism
From: Bill Johnston
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:23
Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 22:23
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[posted and mailed] I've read the alerts from Cisco, SANS, and CERT regarding the latest IOS flaw, which identify only the potential for denial of service attacks to be directed at certain well-known TCP ports. A SAN "Flash" publication noted that an exploit had been observed "in the wild". Unfortunately, it neglected to describe the vehicle for this exploit in even a basic way that could help Cisco admins plan a rational IOS migration strategy. This could be done without disclosing any sensitive and potentially re-exploitable information about the flaw(s) in IOS, how those flaw(s) were originally compromised, or indeed what were the precise technical consequences. Such sensitive information would indeed be more likely to help a malicious cracker more than an end-user Cisco admin. (Even though we all crave knowledge of the nitty-gritty and hate to admit that we don't always "need to know".) At this time, and due to the potential severity and ubiquity of this incident, no harm could come from telling the public certain information about the vehicle(s) for any "in-the-wild" exploits that are observed. For example, if merely knowing that we are facing an virus, worm, or trojan horse that runs on platform XYZ can be helpful in planning and prioritizing a response. Certainly, the existence of one exploit means that others could come, and no Cisco admin worth a damn would take a preliminary announcement and base an entire strategy upon that first piece of data to the exclusion of all others. But if I knew RIGHT NOW that the exploit was being delivered in "Dancing Baby"-like Wintoys that are getting schlepped around the net on various instant message systems, that means I can't be content with just upgrading my Internet gateway router to avoid external DDoS attacks. It would mean that eventually the Windows machines inside my private LAN will also be attacking my internal routers - the 6509 that handles my VLANs, and all the dinky routers that talk to my EDI partners and my regional offices, etc. These routers MUST listen on some the ports that this particular Cisco exploit utilizes, etc. And in the case of the EDI partners and perhaps the frame network to my regional offices as well, perhaps we don't even control those boxes, so I need to know NOW if I should start shouting at the service providers so they'll install upgrades. Or, if the "wild exploit" is instead something akin the old SAdmin/IIS aka CodeRed attack, in which compromised Sun boxes fired attacks solely at public IP addresses, before doing the rest of their dirty work, well, then, we can may be able to plan our Cisco update strategy by installing the recommended IOS revisions on our Internet facing Cisco gear first, and then await further info from Cisco/SANS/CERT, et al, before embarking on the laborious and risky process of testing and migrating other Cisco gear with layer 3 functionality. Loose lips sink ships ... sometimes. In other cases, unwarranted secrecy only serves to give the enemy more time to develop variations on attack scenarios, while leaving our troops unable to organize and prepare basic defenses. "Go upgrade EVERYTHING", just isn't an adequate set of marching orders. Even if that is the ultimate goal, one must have some information if one is to plan, prioritize, and execute a rational response. - Bill -- Bill Johnston Johnston Network Consulting Services 14758 Chisholm Landing Way Gaithersburg, MD 20878 301-717-8894 wdj-netconsult@consultant.com
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