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Article #2250Re: IOS exploit: please disclose vehicle, not mechanism
From: fugi
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:14
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:14
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In comp.dcom.sys.cisco Bill Johnston <wdj-netconsult@consultant.com> wrote: > [posted and mailed] > "jankemi(remove)" <"jankemi(remove)"@mail.com> wrote in news:LqFTa.116237 > $wk6.30285@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net: >> Bill Johnston wrote: >>> [...] certain well-known TCP ports. > >> IP Protocols, not TCP ports. > Whoa! Perhaps you should alert the IANA > as well. It is almost as if we've all been > using the same terminology for the past > twenty-five years and we all know what > we mean by it. Perhaps it's a conspiracy? > >> Cisco's alert was revised last week to include specific ACL's that will >> stop the attack. Our ACL's went in last Thursday evening. > The problem with these ACLs - "Transit ACLs", > to be precise, is that when applied to edge > routers earlier than 75xx or 12xxx series, > the recommended line: > access list ### 101 deny 53 any any > means that DNS requests get blocked, with no > workaround available. If you happen to be an > organization that handles its own external DNS, > this is ungood. Cisco acks this fact in the > advisory: no that specifies the protocol. not the port. > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml > by noting in italics that: > "ACLs can have performance impact on certain platforms, > so care should be taken when applying the recommended > workarounds." > Further to this, they hint (barely) that the one of the > solutions to the problem I cite above is to create > something called "Receive ACLs", which are described in: > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/racl.html > The problem with racls, which could in principle > catch and allow DNS traffic (as well as 55,77, and > 103) to be handled before this IOS flaw apparently > rears its ugly head, is that racls are currently > supported on very few platforms (75xx and 12xxx) > for only certain IOS versions. > So once again, merely applying the Transit ACLs > given in the Cisco advisory referenced by CERT > and SANS is not a sufficient solution for an > enterprise network. >> The information exists in Cisco's announcment. > Not the information that I was asking for, Mike. > The reason that I ask for information on the > Usenet is because I know that I am not the > world's greatest expert on networking. But > in addition in asking questions on the net, > I have been answering them since 1988. > Politely, my young man. > - Bill > -- > Bill Johnston > Johnston Network Consulting Services > 14758 Chisholm Landing Way > Gaithersburg, MD 20878 > 301-717-8894 > wdj-netconsult@consultant.com -- The complexity of a weapon is inversely proportional to the IQ of the weapon's operator.
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From: fugi <fugi@ultra.bl.org>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco,ios.general,comp.security.firewalls
Subject: Re: IOS exploit: please disclose vehicle, not mechanism
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 19:14:56 -0000
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