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Article #2255Re: IOS exploit: please disclose vehicle, not mechanism
From: Beavis
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:00
Date: Thu, 24 Jul 2003 22:00
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Bill Johnston <wdj-netconsult@consultant.com> wrote in message news:<Xns93C294B29ED49wdjohnstoncomcastnet@206.127.4.25>... > [posted and mailed] > > "jankemi(remove)" <"jankemi(remove)"@mail.com> wrote in news:LqFTa.116237 > $wk6.30285@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net: > > > Bill Johnston wrote: > > >> [...] certain well-known TCP ports. > > > IP Protocols, not TCP ports. > > Whoa! Perhaps you should alert the IANA > as well. It is almost as if we've all been > using the same terminology for the past > twenty-five years and we all know what > we mean by it. Perhaps it's a conspiracy? > IP protocols and TCP ports are not the same thing. I don't think IANA will need to be alerted to this fact. > > Cisco's alert was revised last week to include specific ACL's that will > > stop the attack. Our ACL's went in last Thursday evening. > > The problem with these ACLs - "Transit ACLs", > to be precise, is that when applied to edge > routers earlier than 75xx or 12xxx series, > the recommended line: > > access list ### 101 deny 53 any any > > means that DNS requests get blocked, with no > workaround available. If you happen to be an > organization that handles its own external DNS, > this is ungood. Cisco acks this fact in the > advisory: > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20030717-blocked.shtml > > by noting in italics that: > > "ACLs can have performance impact on certain platforms, > so care should be taken when applying the recommended > workarounds." > > <<SNIP>> This does not affect DNS in any manner whatsoever. If we were talking TCP ports, then yes, it would. But we are talking about IP protocols here, and 53 does not correspond to DNS. What Cisco acknowledges in the above quote is that access lists can have performance impacts because all packets must be compared to them, not because there was anything related to DNS.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f922c,536b22101f44acbf X-Google-Attributes: gidf922c,public X-Google-Thread: 114395,536b22101f44acbf X-Google-Attributes: gid114395,public X-Google-Thread: 102702,536b22101f44acbf X-Google-Attributes: gid102702,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-07-24 15:01:02 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail From: j_bkrdlr@yahoo.com (Beavis) Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco,ios.general,comp.security.firewalls Subject: Re: IOS exploit: please disclose vehicle, not mechanism Date: 24 Jul 2003 15:00:58 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 54 Message-ID: <4ce46789.0307241400.9f512ba@posting.google.com> References: <Xns93C1BACF3C55Awdjohnstoncomcastnet@206.127.4.25> <LqFTa.116237$wk6.30285@rwcrnsc52.ops.asp.att.net> <Xns93C294B29ED49wdjohnstoncomcastnet@206.127.4.25> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.38.46.72 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1059084060 25983 127.0.0.1 (24 Jul 2003 22:01:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 24 Jul 2003 22:01:00 GMT