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Questions about DECnet security on a CISCO router

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From: M.C.M. Dorenbos, +31 70 332 5127...
Date: Tue, 12 Jun 1990 08:36
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Our laboratory considers the use of a CISCO router to make a WAN
connection. We have tested a CISCO router (model MGS) with software version
8.0 (10). The CISCO router should be the entrance of our network, so the
security should be arranged on the router. Basically, we want the users on
our LAN to be able to do whatever they like (within certain limits, of
course), the users who are not on our LAN should have a limited access to
our network (for eg MAIL). On page 5-21,22 in the 'Gateway System Manual'
(april 1990) is an example of how to  accomplish this for a TCP/IP network.

However, it is not clear to me how to accomplish this with DECnet. Consider
the following network:

          +-----+   
  --+-----|CISCO|-----+--
    |     +-----+     |
  DECnet            DECnet
  station           station
  1.4               1.20

Suppose I want to restrict the communication from 1.20 to 1.4, but I do not
want to restrict 1.4 in any way. The following access-list should
accomplish this:

     access-list 301 deny   1.20   0.0     1.4   0.0
     access-list 301 permit 0.0   63.1023  0.0  63.1023

So, node 1.4 can do anything he wants to....
Suppose node 1.4 wants to make a DECnet connection to 1.20 (CTERM, NCP tell 
1.20, etc..). A part of the communication is that node 1.20 sends DECnet 
messages to 1.4. The first line in the access-list forbids this, so a nasty
side effect of the above access-list is that node 1.4 cannot communicate
with node 1.20!
So the diode function which you can create with TCP/IP does not seem
possible with DECnet. I hope that somebody can tell me how to configure the
CISCO in such a way that the diode function with DECnet is accomplished.

Marcel Dorenbos, PTT Research Neher Laboratory, The Netherlands.

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From: MCM_Dorenbos@pttrnl.nl (M.C.M. Dorenbos, +31 70 332 5127, PTT Research, NL)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.sys.cisco
Subject: Questions about DECnet security on a CISCO router
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Date: 12 Jun 90 08:36:12 GMT
Organization: PTT Research Neher Laboratories, The Netherlands
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