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Re: the GNINFO HIGHWAY vs. INFO HIWAY OVERPASS above the poor

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From: John Higdon
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 1994 23:24
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In article <2ssso7$jqu@hebron.connected.com> daheinen@hebron.connected.com (Dean Heinen) writes:
>
>: >>>Do we actually want Joe in the Slammer's drivel adding to the noise
>: >>>level on the net? It is not just a matter of cost, but a matter of
>: >>>overall value of the traffic.

I wrote what you quoted. You should learn a little more about someone
before you attack them personally. To wit:

>This may well be the STUPIDEST thing I've read in this group to date.
>This elitist seems to think that a "college" education is a 
>prerequisite for meaningful existence.

Where did I say "college education"?  You put it in quotes, so I assume
you are quoting me.

>And that Intelligence and and education are only acquired by college 
>graduates.

Where did I say THAT?

>A.	I find this personally insulting, as I am not a college graduate, 
>however I am successfully operating a business that is based strictly on 
>"high tech" applications of high speed digital microwave to corporate 
>communications needs.  I studied nights and weekends for many years to 
>obtain the knowledge required, and college never was possible. I had a 
>family to feed, and bills to pay. The only way I was to get an 
>"education" was to do it myself. ( if money matters here I'd be pleased
> to compare paychecks with this "educated" person)

Bravo! Did you bother to teach yourself how to read and possibly think
in the process? For your information (although it would appear that
facts don't interest you much) I have no college education; own a "high
tech" business; am completely self-educated; and I would certainly be
willing to compare paychecks with you if you really feel that is the
measure of a person's worth.

I really resent having all of your fantasy baggage attributed to me,
particularly when you don't have a clue as to what you are talking
about.

>B.	I actually know a "Joe in the Slammer", and have a deep respect 
>for this man's knowledge, and savvy of not only digital communications, 
>but RF engineering, 4 or 5 different programming languages, unix, and a 
>smattering of other subjects thrown in. (also not a college graduate)

That is wonderful. So perhaps when he gets OUT of the slammer, he can
contribute to the quality material on the net. In the meantime, I
happen to know a number of people who have similar intellectual
accomplishments who are NOT in the slammer. I would rather hear from
them first. Being in the slammer is not misfortune that befalls a
person by chance. Let him pay his debt to society and THEN let's hear
from him.

>C.	When speaking of the "value of the traffic" , is the class based, 
>elitist, snob approach that is proposed "valuable" ?

If you cannot tell the difference between traffic that is worthwhile
and that which is not, then I suggest you go back to the books. Before
you wave your self-education around like a badge of honor (there are
others of us here that carry that same badge), you might make sure that
it is worth crowing about.

>Go back to your college "Biff", have another beer with your frat brothers, 
>and leave this group to the folks who work at this everyday, and respect 
>other people for their brains instead of their social position.

Which college is that? The one of Hard Knocks? I didn't go to any
other. But I don't have a chip on my shoulder regarding those who did.
To each his own. I suggest you learn a little more about diversity and
intelligence before you continue to crow about your self-education. I also
suggest you perhaps learn to read for content and context.

>Yes, I'll get it in droves for this, So go ahead......
>{fireproof underware mode}

Then why did you post it? People accuse me of being a hot head, a title
which I frequently deserve. But you take the cake. In one of the most
self-serving pieces I have ever read on Usenet, you brag about your
self-accomplishments and then condemn me because you have decided that
I went to college and am some sort of snob. Well, sir, there are many
of us who participate here who are self-educated and have done
respectably in the accomplishment department.

I have been accused of many things and called many names, but
never been called "Biff", and certainly have never been accused of
being an "educational snob". That's really funny: I who in essence
barely graduated from high school.

So what of this will you quote out of context in your reply?

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From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Subject: Re: the GNINFO HIGHWAY vs. INFO HIWAY OVERPASS above the poor
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