🚀 go-pugleaf

On 3/9/2011 10:16 PM, GreenXenon wrote:
> On Mar 9, 5:31 pm, John - KD5YI<soph...@invalid.org>  wrote:
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>> On 3/9/2011 9:42 AM, GreenXenon wrote:
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>>> 1. My ideation is not dangerous or violent -- just perverse enough to
>>> stir up a lynch mob against me
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>> Then you have nothing to fear. Lynch mobs are breaking the law and you
>> will be protected by our laws.
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> I'll still be in danger because police can't be everywhere at all
> times. In addition, it is VERY difficult for police to control crowds.
> If hundreds of people get together and decide set me on fire, there is
> little the police can do to save me.


Is that not true for every individual in our society regardless of 
mental stability or stature? You expect some special protection?


>> If your plan is to vent your poison with other like-minded individuals,
>> I have no objection to that. If your plan is to remain anonymous because
>> you wish to infiltrate general public forums (like this one, for
>> example) then I would object strenuously.
>
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> The plan is to remain anonymous because:
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> 1. I want to be safe from net-sniffers who would like to figure me
> out. If they do know -- or least have an idea of -- my identity, they
> will terrorize me to no end.


How do you know that? Do you have direct experience with this? As I said 
in my last post, you have been a gentleman here and no one has mentioned 
that they are so angered as to try to look for you. Actually, so far, 
you are not worth the trouble to track down and form a lynch mob to deal 
with you.


> 2. While the stuff I'd like to write does not violate any current
> laws, future laws maybe enacted that would consider my activity to be
> a *heinous* felony. As as response to my chat room activities,
> society's lynch mobs will see to it that new legislation is passed,
> putting extreme restrictions on free speech.

Why don't you worry about that when the time comes. You could spend the 
rest of your life worrying about that or death or whatever. There is no 
joy in life if you continually worry about things that are not here yet.

> Unfortunately, there is power in numbers. My opinions are in extreme
> opposition of that of conventional society. If the average person
> figures out the way I think, they will get their friends together,
> form a violent crowd, and burn me alive.

This must be part of your illness. You presume what you say will happen. 
I do not think you know what the average person will think or do and I 
am sure that you cannot predict what you, me, or anybody else will do.

Have you read Isacc Asimov's Foundation Trilogy? If so, then you must 
know that you cannot predict human reaction.


>>
>> So far, you have conducted yourself in a gentlemanly manner here. I have
>> no objection to the conversation so far (other than the minor fact that
>> it is somewhat off-topic).
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> Thanks for your understanding
>
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>>> 4. Speaking of psychiatric facilities, these institutions should take
>>> care of all the needs of the patients and provide a clean, healthy,
>>> and safe environment for patients without the patients being expected
>>> to pay a single red cent of money. Also, patients should be allowed to
>>> vent their spleen to the mental health staff in complete
>>> confidentiality. Each patient should have their own living quarter and
>>> it should be free of any physical discomfort.
>>
>
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>> I agree with you about the freedom to express your feelings to the
>> medical staff. If they cannot deal with people who are diagnosed with
>> your condition, they need to seek employment elsewhere or get training.
>> Or, you need to have your doctor find the proper treatment center.
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> With oppressive restrictions on confidentiality it's going to be
> extremely difficult for me to find a place where I can vent my spleen
> without fear of reprisal.


How hard have you tried?

>>
>> However, I think you should temper item 4 with a bit of gratitude. For
>> example, the cause of your condition remains mostly unknown at this
>> time, but I am sure that research continues. And, just because you were
>> born with this affliction is not necessarily a reason to expect
>> everything to come to you free of charge.
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> If society is as civilized as it claims to be, it will provide free,
> high-quality, immediate, and long-term medical care -- physical and
> mental -- to any and all patients.


Society is actually more compassionate than I am. If society is not 
providing everything you think you need, I am at peace with that. How 
about trying to help yourself?

>
>> In the not so distant past,
>> some mentally ill patients were confined and given shock treatments.
>> Farther back in time they were left to themselves to perish. You can
>> thank the men of science who made our survival possible even with
>> corrupt genes.
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> I greatly respect science.

If so, then try to help science in return. Perhaps you could enroll in a 
scientific study. It would require work on your part to run down any 
such studies. You will need to contact doctors, research centers, etc.

Try to help yourself before you berate society and science for letting 
you down.

John