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Article #2407Re: Just one more AR/MA/ARMA/Marple-type question
From: Arthur Mariano
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1990 05:07
Date: Sat, 06 Jan 1990 05:07
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In article <1819@mrsvr.UUCP>, kohli@gemed (Jim Kohli) writes: ... > When I learned about autocorrelations, the autocorrelation > vector was either considered to be the same dimension as the > dataset (i.e., p=N), or it was padded with zeroes (p>N). Dear Jim, This wrong. Real data is noisy. Thus, your estimated correlations do not equal the true correlations. A good correlation estimate uses the same data in the numerator as the denominator, viz. C(k)=sum x(s)*x(s+k)/(sum sqrt(x(s)*x(s+k))), where x is the detrended (very important) data, k is the lag, * is multiplication and the sum is over all possible s. A rule of thumb is never calculate your correlation function for lags greater than 1/4 the data length. The rationale behind this is that for large lags, very few (relative to zero and small lags) data points go into the products needed for C(k), e.g. for lags equal to N-1, only one product can be calculated. Thus large lags have high estimation error that will corrupt fits to or transforms of your ESTIMATED correlation function. So keep p small to get best results. Cheers, Arthur -- Arthur Mariano Inet: mariano@umigw.miami.edu [128.116.10.1] SPAN: miami::arthur (host 3074::) arthur%miami.span@star.stanford.edu UUCP: ...!ncar!umigw!mariano arthur%miami.span@vlsi.jpl.nasa.gov
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!utgpu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!mailrus!ncar!umigw!mariano From: mariano@umigw.MIAMI.EDU (Arthur Mariano) Newsgroups: comp.dsp Subject: Re: Just one more AR/MA/ARMA/Marple-type question Keywords: AR MA ARMA Sir Lawrence Marple confusion p ip N << >> Message-ID: <1420@umigw.MIAMI.EDU> Date: 6 Jan 90 05:07:20 GMT References: <1819@mrsvr.UUCP> Lines: 23