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Started by Peter Tomaszewski
Mon, 28 May 1990 11:25
Combining samples......
Author: Peter Tomaszewski
Date: Mon, 28 May 1990 11:25
Date: Mon, 28 May 1990 11:25
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Hi,
I would like to know how you combine two samples. If they are sampled at the
same rate I suppose you can just add them together, but if I they different
rates?
Email : d88pt@efd.lth.se
thanks.........
Re: Combining samples......
Author: John Logajan
Date: Mon, 28 May 1990 16:46
Date: Mon, 28 May 1990 16:46
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d88pt@efd.lth.se (Peter Tomaszewski) writes: >I would like to know how you combine two samples. If they are sampled at the >same rate I suppose you can just add them together, but if I they different >rates? Interpolate. -- - John Logajan @ Network Systems; 7600 Boone Ave; Brooklyn Park, MN 55428 - logajan@ns.network.com, john@logajan.mn.org, 612-424-4888, Fax 424-2853
Re: Combining samples......
Author: Joe Keane
Date: Wed, 30 May 1990 19:37
Date: Wed, 30 May 1990 19:37
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In article <1990May28.112524.4264@lth.se> d88pt@efd.lth.se (Peter Tomaszewski) writes: >I would like to know how you combine two samples. If they are sampled at the >same rate I suppose you can just add them together, but if I they different >rates? If they are at the same rate, you just add or average them together. If they are at different rates, you have to convert one or both to the final rate. Now, how to convert the sampling rate? Basically, there are cheap ways to do it, and there is the right way to do it. This is a complicated topic, so i won't get into it.
Re: Combining samples......
Author: Gregory Harrison
Date: Thu, 31 May 1990 16:59
Date: Thu, 31 May 1990 16:59
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In article <1990May28.112524.4264@lth.se> d88pt@efd.lth.se (Peter Tomaszewski) writes: >Hi, > > >I would like to know how you combine two samples. If they are sampled at the I suppose you could just interpolate one of the samples to have it's datapoint be time-aligned with the other sample. You could use the spline function in Matlab for instance, or just write a little interpolator. You would use time as the independant variable. Greg Harrison GE
Re: Combining samples......
Author: C. D. Covington
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 1990 15:46
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 1990 15:46
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In article <4375@ge-dab.GE.COM>, harrison@sunwhere.DAB.GE.COM (Gregory Harrison) writes:
> In article <1990May28.112524.4264@lth.se> d88pt@efd.lth.se (Peter Tomaszewski) writes:
> >Hi,
> >
> >
> >I would like to know how you combine two samples. If they are sampled at the
> I suppose you could just interpolate one of the samples to have it's
> datapoint be time-aligned with the other sample. You could use the
> spline function in Matlab for instance, or just write a little
> interpolator. You would use time as the independant variable.
>
> Greg Harrison
> GE
I cannot tell if my previous posting went out yesterday. We have had
disk full problems on our netnews server. Interpolation is the correct
answer to get the inbetween samples. The ideal interpolation pulse is
the sinc function sin(pi*x)/(pi*x) as predicted by Nyquists sampling theorem
where the signal must be lowpass to avoid aliasing. In fact the sinc pulse
is an ideal lowpass filter in the frequency domain - amazing.
I did do an analysis of optimum truncated (time-limited) interpolation
functions and was led to the prolate spheroidal wave function set. These
functions have optimum lowpass characteristics for a given time limitation.
If the time limitation is relaxed, we revert to the sinc pulse solution.
C. David Covington (WA5TGF) cdc@uafhcx.uark.edu (501) 575-6583
Asst Prof, Elec Eng Univ of Arkansas Fayetteville, AR 72701
Re: Combining samples......
Author: Wilf Leblanc
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 1990 18:29
Date: Fri, 01 Jun 1990 18:29
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The problem of combining samples is really a
problem of rate conversion (as was discussed
in previous articles). A good reference
is:
Ronald E. Crochiere, Rabiner, L. R.,
"Multirate Digital Signal Processing," Prentice-Hall, 1983.
ISBN 0-13-605162-6
A previous poster (Covington, I think), mentioned prolate
spheroidal wave functions. Would any one have a good
reference on this topic ??
---
<wilf@sce.carleton.ca>
W.P. LeBlanc | I don't think, therefore,
| I am not.
Re: Combining samples......
Author: John W. Herman
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 1990 18:12
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 1990 18:12
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-- One comment. Even if two time series are sampled at the same rate, interpolation will still be required if the samples are not taken at the same time. -- John Herman ARPA: herman@marlin.nosc.mil Phome: (619)553-1466 Naval Ocean System Center Code 712 271 Catalina Blvd San Diego, Ca. 92512-5000
Re: Combining samples......
Author: Mike Black
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 1990 23:46
Date: Tue, 05 Jun 1990 23:46
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I always though combining two samples was not possible in the time domain. If you add two opposite phase sine waves you'll get a null response. It's necessary to do a Fourier Transform to the frequency domain, add the amplitudes, and invert the transform. This will give you twice the amplitude of the original two sine waves (this would seem to be the desired effect). Am I totally off-base in this rather long-held belief? Mike...
Re: Combining samples......
Author: JAMES Taylor
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 1990 22:28
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 1990 22:28
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In article <wilf.644264995@endor> wilf@sce.carleton.ca (Wilf Leblanc) writes: > > >The problem of combining samples is really a >problem of rate conversion (as was discussed ... Would any one have a good >reference on this topic ?? > >--- ><wilf@sce.carleton.ca> >W.P. LeBlanc | I don't think, therefore, > | I am not. Perhaps one of the best references I've seen is a book (about to be published?) by Dr Robert J. Marks II: "Shannon Sampling and Interpolation Theory I: Foundations". This book was written for a class in Shannon sampling at the University of Washington Electrical Engineering department. Try marks@blake.acs.washington.edu for more information, although I don't know whether that email address remains good. The book had been completed, and was in it's final rounds with the publisher last fall, so it may now be available.
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