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Article #1360Re: VI??? GROSS!
From: Thomas Wolff
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:20
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:20
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rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo) writes: >9118543@sunvax.sun.ac.za writes: >>Is there no better editor for UNIX than VI? >>I mean... what happened to the good old full screen ones? >>Cheers >>Christ >psst. vi is full screen; also, the relative 'goodness' of an >editor depends on what you're trying to do. For instance, if >you're trying to have a completely integrated one-program >environment that reads news and everything, check out gnuemacs. >If you can't stand these fancy newfangled "tools", use cat. >If you live modally, vi is for you. Full screen: in some sense, vi is. But not screen-oriented. Changing or inserting text and not seeing the result unless a finish key is pressed is certainly not the behaviour I would wish from an interactive editor - it reminds a lot of old batch-time editing programs. Vi is a line editor with on-screen display. Actually, I wouldn't even call it a text editor since (according to some recent discussion in this group) it is not even capable of performing one of the most elementary text editing tasks: marking an arbitrary (!) block of text and by some means copying or moving it to another place. As a reaction to my moroseness about the apparent unavailability of a simple text editor for Unix and the monstrous complexity and slowness of the only widely spread alternative (emacs), I captured the source of a freely available editor and turned it into a safe, fast, and easy to use text editor. (I also announced it to this group some time ago.) It is available by ftp from ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.50]: /pub/unix/editor/mined.tar.Z (108841 bytes) /pub/pc/editor/mined_pc.zip (114522 bytes) Thomas wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!dtix!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!yale.edu!ira.uka.de!math.fu-berlin.de!wolff From: wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff) Newsgroups: comp.editors Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS! Message-ID: <LYT86XN@math.fu-berlin.de> Date: 12 Nov 92 15:20:27 GMT References: <1992Oct28.162607.5613@sunvax.sun.ac.za> <1992Oct28.214551.21668@wixer.cactus.org> Sender: news@math.fu-berlin.de (Math Department) Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany Lines: 35