🚀 go-pugleaf

wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff) writes:
>rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo) writes:
>
>>psst.  vi is full screen; also, the relative 'goodness' of an
>>editor depends on what you're trying to do.  For instance, if
>>you're trying to have a completely integrated one-program
>>environment that reads news and everything, check out gnuemacs.
>>If you can't stand these fancy newfangled "tools", use cat.
>>If you live modally, vi is for you.
>
>Full screen: in some sense, vi is. But not screen-oriented. Changing 
>or inserting text and not seeing the result unless a finish key is 
>pressed is certainly not the behaviour I would wish from an interactive 
>editor - it reminds a lot of old batch-time editing programs.

Have you used vi?  When you change or insert text, what you see is
what you get.  Your edits immediately affect the text you change or
insert. 

>Vi is a line editor with on-screen display. Actually, I wouldn't even 
>call it a text editor since (according to some recent discussion in this 
>group) it is not even capable of performing one of the most elementary 
>text editing tasks: marking an arbitrary (!) block of text and by some 
>means copying or moving it to another place.

I don't know what discussion in this group you read, but something was
clearly lost in the translation process between screen and brain.  You
have a variety of options available to you as far as cutting and pasting
goes in vi.  You can use, for instance, 'm'ark and 'y'ank and 'p'ut.  Have
you used vi, or looked at an actual description of the editor?

>As a reaction to my moroseness about the apparent unavailability of a 
>simple text editor for Unix and the monstrous complexity and slowness 
>of the only widely spread alternative (emacs), I captured the source 
>of a freely available editor and turned it into a safe, fast, and easy 
>to use text editor. (I also announced it to this group some time ago.)
>It is available by ftp from ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.50]:
>/pub/unix/editor/mined.tar.Z (108841 bytes)
>/pub/pc/editor/mined_pc.zip (114522 bytes)

It's good that people are still writing editors -- heck, I'm doing it
myself -- but don't post treatises on editors that you obviously don't
know about in order to hype your own.

>Thomas
>wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de
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Felix Sebastian Gallo                              rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org
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