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Re: VI??? GROSS!

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From: Leslie Mikesell
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:04
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In article <LYT86XN@math.fu-berlin.de> wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff) writes:
>Full screen: in some sense, vi is. But not screen-oriented. Changing 
>or inserting text and not seeing the result unless a finish key is 
>pressed 

No wonder you don't like it!  This behaviour is optional and only
desirable for slow connections and terminals that don't have an
insert character command (i.e. the host has to redraw the whole line
or screen).  It may be that you aren't using the right TERM definition,
or you need to :set redraw and :set noslowopen to force it.

>... it is not even capable of performing one of the most elementary 
>text editing tasks: marking an arbitrary (!) block of text and by some 
>means copying or moving it to another place.

Right - it just doesn't do arbitrary rectangles, but blocks of lines
are easy as are characters within a line, and the two operations can
handle the things you usually need to do to text, especially program
text.

>As a reaction to my moroseness about the apparent unavailability of a 
>simple text editor for Unix and the monstrous complexity and slowness 
>of the only widely spread alternative (emacs), I captured the source 
>of a freely available editor and turned it into a safe, fast, and easy 
>to use text editor. (I also announced it to this group some time ago.)
>It is available by ftp from ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.50]:
>/pub/unix/editor/mined.tar.Z (108841 bytes)
>/pub/pc/editor/mined_pc.zip (114522 bytes)

Does this one do arbitrary rectangles?

Les Mikesell
  les@chinet.chi.il.us
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Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS!
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