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Article #2463Re: VI??? GROSS!
From: Lachlan Cranswick
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:43
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:43
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wolff@inf.fu-berlin.de (Thomas Wolff) writes: >As a reaction to my moroseness about the apparent unavailability of a >simple text editor for Unix and the monstrous complexity and slowness >of the only widely spread alternative (emacs), I captured the source >of a freely available editor and turned it into a safe, fast, and easy >to use text editor. (I also announced it to this group some time ago.) >It is available by ftp from ftp.fu-berlin.de [130.133.4.50]: >/pub/unix/editor/mined.tar.Z (108841 bytes) >/pub/pc/editor/mined_pc.zip (114522 bytes) I'm FTPing the above editor to try it out. But a good - simple editor I have just given to site users is PICO. It really is very simple and users didn't believe there could ever be a simple editor for UNIX but they have been proved wrong. It is also public domain software. It also came with a number of makefiles for different computers so I didn't have library problems to get the thing to compile. FEATURES:- It has the menu at the bottom on the screen with all the options. Line wrap. REALLY USER FRIENDLY. I no longer have to feel guilty about introducing new users to UNIX by warning them to leave an afternoon or two free to learn vi. It is very easy to get elm to use it as its default editor and you can make nn use PICO as its default editor by putting the line setenv EDITOR /bin/pico (or wherever the editor is) One of the indicators on how much average users hate vi is that some of the site users were editing their documents in a simple DOS editor, then uploading it to the unix machine. Is this comomon on other sites that use UNIX. The most extreme case was for email. The person edited his letter in MS WORD 5.0 for DOS. Saving the final copy as a text file. Then uploading it via serial line to the UNIX machine to mail off. This question was part of the is UNIX dead flamewar on comp.unix.questions but if UNIX is so good compared to DOS - and DOS is the bottom of the barrel - how come you never seem to find new DOS users uploading their text files to a UNIX machine to edit. This seems to imply UNIX has some big failings with common users. And no - the fact that you can get vi for DOS is not the only answer!! At least with some very kind people writing simple editors for UNIX, new users will not be turned off immediately after they try to edit a text file. -- Lachlan Cranswick - CSIRO _--_|\ lachlan@dmp.CSIRO.AU Division of Mineral Products / \ tel +61 3 647 0367 PO Box 124, Port Melbourne 3207 \_.--._/ fax +61 3 646 3223 AUSTRALIA v
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Newsgroups: comp.editors Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!wupost!darwin.sura.net!sgiblab!munnari.oz.au!mel.dit.csiro.au!dmp.csiro.au!lachlan From: lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick) Subject: Re: VI??? GROSS! Message-ID: <1992Nov17.024356.17586@dmp.csiro.au> Organization: CSIRO Division of Mineral Products, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA References: <1992Oct28.162607.5613@sunvax.sun.ac.za> <1992Oct28.214551.21668@wixer.cactus.org> <LYT86XN@math.fu-berlin.de> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:43:56 GMT Lines: 64