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Article #3270Re: vi vs. emacs
From: Michael A. Petonic
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1988 00:38
Date: Sat, 27 Aug 1988 00:38
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In article <926@buengc.BU.EDU> bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
>In article <2716@mipos3.intel.com> nate@mipos3.intel.com (Nate Hess) writes:
>>In article <700@buengc.BU.EDU> bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
>>>In article <2679@mipos3.intel.com> I write:
>>>>In article <661@buengc.BU.EDU> bph@buengc.bu.edu (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
>>>>>I once went into the info mode of Emacs, saw the menu of commands [...]
>>>
>>> --Blair
>>> "No help is better than Emacs 'help.'"
>>
>>There is an entire, indexed, cross-referenced Emacs manual available
>>on-line if you type 'i' at this point. This goes into Info mode, which
>>allows you to browse documentation quickly and easily. There is a
>>"primer for first timers" available once you get into Info mode. Give
>>it a try.
>
>As you see above, it was the impossible-to-bother-with, entirely new
>and different (read: superfluous) set of commands for the dinging
>"info mode" that made me decide that emacs is someone's idea of
>full employment for inefficient software engineers.
Blair, get a brain. I was trying to hold back from flaming you,
but your ignorance and your beligerant attitude make flaming
you a too pleasurable task.
I've seen some engineers out of Boston U., and I daresay they are
a lot sharper than you are. What happened to you, get in on
a mental hardship scholarship?
If you can't learn a simple damn editor like emacs, how can a
manager expect you to perform well on a job. All you've been
doing in comp.emacs is telling us about your failings and your
lack of adequate numbers of brain cells.
Look, a lot of people use emacs. Why? Because they find it powerful
and flexible. It tops VI in those two catagories, hands down.
And I've never seen anyone who wasn't a fool try to refute this.
However, it's a little bit more complex than VI and that's the
price you pay.
I learned Emacs in a lull between projects. Since I had somehow
managed to escape the attention of any managers who had
grunge work to do, I set out upon the task of learning emacs.
It took a week to get used to it, and get my lisp back to
par so that I could write some pretty simple functions. Yeah,
it took a week out of my time, but that's only 2% of a
year's productivity, and it probably has increased my productivity
by at LEAST 15%.
So -- quit your bitching. If you don't want to learn Emacs, that's
fine. But don't bother us about what a mental wimp you are, ok?
We learned it. I hear Boston has some pretty good "Special Education"
programs that you might want to enroll in.
Oh, one more thing.... You philistine. Geez, I've always
wanted to use that in a flame.
-MikeP
--
Michael A. Petonic mikep@ism780c.isc.com
``Living in the pools, they soon forget about the sea.''
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!attcan!uunet!labrea!agate!eos!ames!hc!cs.utexas.edu!sm.unisys.com!ism780c!mikep From: mikep@ism780c.isc.com (Michael A. Petonic) Newsgroups: comp.editors,alt.flame Subject: Re: vi vs. emacs Message-ID: <14700@ism780c.isc.com> Date: 27 Aug 88 00:38:07 GMT References: <16697@brl-adm.ARPA> <517@uva.UUCP> <661@buengc.BU.EDU> <2679@mipos3.intel.com> <700@buengc.BU.EDU> <2716@mipos3.intel.com> <926@buengc.BU.EDU> Reply-To: mikep@ism780c.UUCP (Michael A. Petonic) Followup-To: alt.flame Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Santa Monica CA Lines: 62