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Article #3672Re: GNU Emacs and Sun windows
From: Jordan K. Hubbard
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1986 20:25
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 1986 20:25
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In article <8611211945.AA02288@EDDIE> rms@prep.ai.mit.edu (Richard M. Stallman) writes: >I have received an interface from GNU Emacs to Sun Windows that will >probably be included in Emacs version 18 in a few weeks. It provides >for mouse support. > >However, if you are using a Sun, you should not use Sun windows. >You should use the free X window system. > >1. Using free software in preference to comparable proprietary >software is an important way users can support the free software >movement. > >2. X is available on many kinds of machines. Thus, using it >does not lock you in to any one manufacturer. X is standard >in 4.3bsd. > >3. X is network-oriented; programs on other machines can >display on your screen as if they were local. All these perfectly reasonable points aside, X has one big significant win over suntools that wasn't mentioned: It's smaller and faster! Several sun clusters here at U.C. Berkeley have switched to X because of lack of swap space and/or excessive ND traffic from diskless suns caused by suntools's obesity. Of course, GNU emacs isn't exactly svelte (sorry Richard), but if you're gonna run it you'd better run it with something that's small and fast. I use GNU under X on my Vaxstations and my suns, and wouldn't use anything else. As soon as I get it ported to the IBM PC/RT I'll use it there too (yes, X runs on the RT) It's kinda nice to slap remote Emacs windows up on various displays from even more various machines without hassle. The only gripe I currently have with GNUemacs is that it does not accept the 'standard' set of X-application command line (or startup file) flags. Thus you cannot specify geometries, font types, colors, mouse bitmaps, etc for it. This is not to say that some of these things have not been done. I've seen a hacked version with selectable fonts, but it's not in the standard release. Since Richard is not supporting the X hacks, it's kind of hard to figure out when this stuff will be done, or who is working on it. Jordan Hubbard manager of workstation software University of California, Berkeley. ucbvax!jkh
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Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!utzoo!mnetor!seismo!rutgers!ames!ucbcad!ucbvax!jade!opal.berkeley.edu!jkh From: jkh@opal.berkeley.edu (Jordan K. Hubbard) Newsgroups: comp.emacs Subject: Re: GNU Emacs and Sun windows Message-ID: <1790@jade.BERKELEY.EDU> Date: Tue, 2-Dec-86 15:25:15 EST Article-I.D.: jade.1790 Posted: Tue Dec 2 15:25:15 1986 Date-Received: Wed, 3-Dec-86 09:21:51 EST References: <8611211945.AA02288@EDDIE> Sender: usenet@jade.BERKELEY.EDU Reply-To: jkh@opal.berkeley.edu (Jordan K. Hubbard) Organization: University of California, Berkeley Lines: 42