🚀 go-pugleaf

In article <KARL.88Nov19003017@triceratops.cis.ohio-state.edu>, karl@triceratops (Karl Kleinpaste) writes:
>dieter@titan.nmt.edu (The Demented Teddy Bear) writes:
>   >[Karl's former signature:]
>   > "He even writes obnoxious LISP CODE!"
>   > 	-- A local Lisp hacker and AI expert, having tried
>   > 	   (thus far unsuccessfully) to bring up Gnews 2.0.

>   And seems to ignore questions about it.

Oh please.  I do respond when I can.  Sometimes I get busy for awhile.
Sometimes a correct response requires thinking.  And sometimes I just
forget.  I get lots of Gnews mail.  (2 Mbytes to date or so.  I stopped
counting long long ago.)

>An amazing thing was learned today about Gnews: It gets just all upset
>if rnews is loaded before Gnews.

The symptoms include the following, in case it happens to you:

"y" is unbound in news-mode.  The name "Gnews:" does not show up on the
left side of the mode line.  "NEWS" shows up as the mode name, instead
of "News".  "n" returns a "Wrong type argument: integer-or-marker-p, nil."
error.  "l" returns an empty roster.

>		  so it was always already present when Gnews loaded
>up, which caused Gnews to notice that there already existed a
>news-mode-map, which meant that it didn't bother to initialize
>news-mode-map, which was wrong...

I suppose the time to program around any rnews conflicts has come anyway.
You gave me a real good scare there for awhile.

>BTW, Matthew seems to have found that .signature file pretty amusing
>for the short while that I had it.

Hell yes.  As Karl, but not the person he's quoting, knew, I give that
explicit warning in the README file.

ucbvax!garnet!weemba	Matthew P Wiener/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"Nil sounds like a lot of kopins! I never got paid nil before!" --Groo