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Re: how many vowels in English?

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From: Tim ARNOLD
Date: Tue, 28 May 1991 02:04
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665instr@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Ian) writes:

>In article <RP7i32w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, arktik@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Ryan Daum) writes:

[deleted stuff  about 14 vowels v. 5.5 vowels]

There are two meanings of vowel 
	1) the more open sounds uttered in speech
	2) letter representing this, as a, e, i, o, u; OED
Choose your definition and it might be a little easier to agree!

>> For example, the "au" combination is not pronounced "a-u" ... it's a 
>> single sound therefore it's a seperate vowel?

That's correct for this particular combination but not for "oi" and others as
many of you singers or phonetics scholars will know.
Hence you can argue about the number of different sounds that match 1) but
2) is clear and precise and quantifiable.
Hence it is usually assumed when someone asks "How many ...?"

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