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In article <1990Aug4.145827.7722@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> wpg@mendel.acc.Virginia.EDU (William P. Gardner) writes:


>1.  Is it possible to have a workstation at a remote site that displays
>    multiple windows controlled by a program at the central site?

>2.  Is it possible to have one or more of those windows be shared among
>    two or more remote workstations?

MacWEEK 31 July 1990 mentions that Aspects 1.0 developed by Group
Technologies will be announced at the Boston Expo this week.

Terms like "Real-time document conferencing" and "free-for-all
brainstorming mode" are mentioned. It will include word processing,
paint and draw tools and allow participants to work by modem or LAN.

It says their electric telephone number is 703-528-1555 in USA.

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In article <1990Aug4.145827.7722@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> wpg@mendel.acc.Virginia.EDU (William P. Gardner) writes:
> 1.  Is it possible to have a workstation at a remote site that displays
>     multiple windows controlled by a program at the central site?
> 
> 2.  Is it possible to have one or more of those windows be shared among
>     two or more remote workstations?

Yes, both are possible with the X window system, since one of the goals of
the X design was network (in general, communication path) transparency.  To
see a demo of this sort of thing, try out wscrawl, a program which was
posted to the Usenet newsgroup comp.sources.x a few months ago, and is
available from the usual archives via anonymous ftp (I got it from
uunet.uu.net).

Wscrawl allows multiple users on multiple workstations (any one of which or
none of which might be the computer running the program) to share a window
in which they all can draw and type text.  When one user resizes the
window, it gets resized for all.  Etc.


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I'm part of a committee charged with devising an electronic event for
the next California Association of Academic Computing conference, this
spring, at U.C. Davis. I thought the participants in this group might
have some ideas to contribute.
 
We are trying to demonstrate the power of a wide are network for
educators. The participants in this conference are mostly community
college and Cal State faculty. There will be about 200 people here, and
most will have little or no exposure to Internet, Usenet, or any other
wide area network.

The event can be hands on, or more of a demonstration. The only
restriction for a hands-on session is that we will have to break the
group into 4 or 5 person teams, since I don't think I can get more than
about 50 live terminals set up in one place. For a demonstration, we
have access to all kinds of stuff - a local fiber optic network,
satellite uplink for computer and video, Barco color video projector,
etc.

One idea that's been discussed is a sort of network scavenger hunt. We
can give all the participants some basic instruction in things like FTP
and e-mail in advance of the event. Then we set up a task - retrieve
certain information from a certain place, solve the puzzle, answer these
questions, or whatever. The clues/information needed are in files at FTP
sites, or in the hands of volunteers on the network sitting at their
terminals for the two hour duration of the event, waiting for e-mail. We
can probably even get a vendor to donate valuable prizes (insert
fanfare) for the winning team.

So, any great ideas out there? We want to send these people home
convinced that the network is a really amazing resource. That shouldn't
be too hard, since it's true! Thanks for your time, and I hope this
didn't raise the S/N ratio of your group too much :-)


Ken Weiss
cckweiss@castor.ucdavis.edu

In article <7769@aggie.ucdavis.edu> cckweiss@castor.ucdavis.edu () writes:
>I'm part of a committee charged with devising an electronic event for
> ....
>We are trying to demonstrate the power of a wide are network for
>educators. The participants in this conference are mostly community
>
>Ken Weiss
>cckweiss@castor.ucdavis.edu

I think that any hands-on activity you put together would take away from
the true value of the Internet connection.  Such an activity would surely
only be a "toy", and some may walk away saying to themselves that only
toy things can be done.  

Perhaps a better approach would be to present some statistics.  Such as:
- how many different sites responded to any random article on a random bboard.
	Just on comp.groupware people have responded from Australia, Italy,
	and all over the US and Canada.
- point out the number of active bboards.  Inactive ones get removed, so a
	comprehensive list of bboards are the active ones.
- look how much net traffic gets generated.
- tell anecdotes about some people getting so caught up in bboard/news, that
	they spend *-LITERALLY ALL DAY-* reading and responding to news.
- mention how I can get a colleague's response in a matter of minutes to an
	important questions whose supporting material is best represented in
	online/electronic form (rather than trying to describe a graphic or
	how a program executes, for example).
- ALL the nifty responses you'll surely get to this one message you posted!!

Though a hands-on activity is tempting, I really think you should think about
whether such an activity can truly do justice to the Internet WAN.

-Rick