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2 total messages Started by Rob Kling Mon, 18 Mar 1991 15:01
Re: Basic Groupware/CSCW Questions
#469
Author: Rob Kling
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1991 15:01
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 Dear Simon,

 Thanks for your note. As I said, I read your article as AMBIVALENT about
 the value of social theory/social analysis.

 You've identified some of the observations in   "Groupware: Some Issues and
 Experiences."< CACM 34(1)(Jan 1991):38-58> which support the value of
 social theory/social analysis. And there are others. On page 55 you note:
 "the system and the group are intimately interacting entities (p. 55)."
 The role of social theory is limited, at best, in the conception offered in
 your paper. On page 45, you treat "social theory" as   sociology applied to
 design. This ignores the importance of "impacts studies" which would help
 potential adopters and users, as well as designers, understand the virtues
 and problematics of CSCW in use. For a comprehensive review of some of this
 literature, see "Technology and Groups: Assessments of Empirical Research"
 Kenneth L. Kraemer and Allain Pinsonneault. Chapter 14, Intellectual
 Teamwork. <Jolene Galegher, Robert Kraut, and Carmen Egido (Ed.) Erlbaum,
 1990.>

 But I also see important elements in your paper which consistently question
 the value of social ANALYSIS. For example, you discuss 2 systems influenced
 by social theories, Quilt and Coordinator. And you simply observe that
 these systems make make additional & perhaps burdensome demands on users.
 <That's all folks!> I am *not* a fan of Coordinator. It is based on speech
 act theory, a philosophical theory of communication. There is **no** sound
 organizational sociology in speech act theory. You may believe that social
 theory/social analysis can can constructively inform CSCW designs. But the
 way you and your coauthors wrote these passages doesn't give the reader
 examples or ideas to illustrate your claims. Your passing examples
 undermine the value of having sound social analysis inform CSCW designs..

 In another passage, you write that "social protocols" allow a system to be
 more adaptive to a group's preferences. You quickly qualify this
 observation by noting that social protocols (e.g., leaders sets agenda and
 sums up a meeting) can be unfair. What is left unsaid that it is
 technologically **impossible* and *unlikely* that one would build unfair
 technical protocols. (grin). I read this passage as indicating how
 technology is necessarily "good" and "the social" may be bad.

 I realize that you may not have intended these interpretations. For my CSCW
 seminar I carefully read your paper for your approach to social aspects of
 CSCW. I found that you clearly treated CSCW as embedded in groups and said
 some priaseworthy general things about the value of social analysis. But
 you examples tended to undermine your general claims. Perhaps unintended.
 But now you're in print with 75,000 copies of that CACM issue circulating
 worldwide.

 Best wishes,

 Rob Kling
Re: Basic Groupware/CSCW Questions
#478
Author: Michael Yamasaki
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 1991 19:54
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Greetings.  I've new to this news group, but have followed the 
recent conversation about the role of social theory in CSCW/groupware.  
My background is probably a bit different from most of the participants 
in this news group and as such may see things from a slightly different
angle.  I am a researcher in scientific visualization for NASA and one 
of my current interests is the use of CSCW in scientific visualization.
The visualization area is primarily computational fluid dynamics (CFD).
There is a high degree of collaboration among CFD scientists and 
frequently scientists from geographically remote locations. The 
visualization process makes use of high performance graphics workstations
and frequently supercomputers.  

Visualization techniques which utilize the advanced capabilities of 
high-performance graphics workstations are for the most part not
transportable beyond the workstation without some loss of informational
content: resolution degradation, color degradation, lack of motion or
animation, or lack of interactivity.  This lack of transportability 
makes it difficult to communicate the results of the visualization 
process to collaborators.  Hence, techniques to share the vis process
or at least present simultaneous, identical images is important for 
collaboration in CFD research. 

It seems as though this is a slightly different paradigm than what I 
read in the few groupware/CSCW papers that I've read.  The purpose is
more on the level of basic communication, sort of a very high tech
fax, than for some higher level of social interaction.  The basis for
exchange is something like:

       "Let me show you something that I found in the data..."
       "Oh, that's interesting, did you notice this feature over here..."
       "Yes, that's related to this thing over here..."
       etc.

It's more an exploration of an unknown shared environment rather than the
building of a shared environment, if that makes any sense. Consequently, 
a level of agreement between the participants required for building a 
shared environment is not necessary.  The "common task (or goal)" in this
instance is the somewhat abstract understanding of the data being 
visualized and is detached, really, from the actual shared environment. 


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