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Started by David Stodolsky
Fri, 02 Mar 1990 19:40
Re What is Groupware is what is difficult
Author: David Stodolsky
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 1990 19:40
Date: Fri, 02 Mar 1990 19:40
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yam@nttmhs.ntt.jp (Toshihiko YAMAKAMI) in Message-ID: <4438@nttmhs.ntt.JP> writes: >What is groupware depends what people think is difficult. This definition will help *sell* groupware, but unless people *know* what is difficult, it will not help them solve problems. >I think we face four big problems in group communication. I agree that these are problems, but does addressing them separately lead to good solutions? Earlier C. Joycln suggested a "New tool for Philosophical Discourse" was needed. Perhaps a middle range theory would be most appropriate. Groupware includes tools, but it is used to build social systems. Failure to appreciate this will lead to new high tech. toys, not real progress. -- David S. Stodolsky, PhD Internet: david@harald.ruc.dk Department of Psychology : stodol@diku.dk Copenhagen Univ., Njalsg. 88 Voice: + 45 31 58 48 86 DK-2300 Copenhagen S, Denmark Fax: + 45 31 54 32 11
Re: Re What is Groupware is what is difficult
Author: Toshihiko YAMAKAMI
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 1990 23:56
Date: Sun, 04 Mar 1990 23:56
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Dr. Stodolsky commented:
From article <1990Mar2.194019.27783@diku.dk>, by stodol@diku.dk (David Stodolsky):
> yam@nttmhs.ntt.jp (Toshihiko YAMAKAMI) in Message-ID: <4438@nttmhs.ntt.JP>
> writes:
>>I think we face four big problems in group communication.
> I agree that these are problems, but does addressing them separately lead to
> good solutions? Earlier C. Joycln suggested a "New tool for Philosophical
> Discourse" was needed. Perhaps a middle range theory would be most appropriate.
> Groupware includes tools, but it is used to build social systems. Failure to
> appreciate this will lead to new high tech. toys, not real progress.
I agree with you.
I would like to appreciate the combination of (1)problem solving in (mental)
cooperative enrironment, (2)computer support for collaboration,
(3) underlying (existing) computer/communication environment.
We need some harmonization in these three problem solving layers which
I think exist in this real world.
I discussed this problem in my papers entitled
"Group Communication Parsing in Multi-User Seeheim Model"
(submitted to IFIP WG8.4 Symposium onMulti-User Interfaces
and Application)
"Direct Manipulation in Group Communication"
(submitted to CSCW'90)
I don't know whether they will be accepted or not until April 20(IFIP),
or May 14(CSCW90).
If there are those who are kindly interested in it, let me know about
your interest on my manuscripts before March 10th.
I will send the manuscripts by some means.
( After the date, I will leave Japan and move to Bell Laboratories, U.S.A.,
for my research stay.
I would be very honored to be able to discuss many interesting topics with
many people on comp.groupware in CHI'90, COIS'90, IFIP WG8.4
Multi-User Interface Conference or in CSCW'90 or on this newsgroup again.
Even my papers are not accepted, I will attend them :-) )
-- Toshihiko YAMAKAMI
Toshihiko YAMAKAMI NTT, Japan
Telephone: +81-468-59-3781 FAX: +81-468-59-2546
junet: yam@nttmhs.ntt.jp CSNET: yam%nttmhs.ntt.jp@relay.cs.net
snail-mail: Take 1-2356-523A, Yokosuka, Kanagawa 238-03 JAPAN
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