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3 total messages Started by Kailan Oro Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:00
Manipulating databases from the web!
#3
Author: Kailan Oro
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:00
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Hi, I am trying hard to find an application which will enable me to
display and edit databases via the Web. I'd expect it to work with
more or less any database (give that I have the correct ODBC
drivers, etc), but for now it must work with a SYBASE database. I
have Intersolv v3.0 ODBC driver for Sybase.

I'd simply like to display the data in a table (i.e. grid) format (NOT
as a form which shows only one record at a time!), and to have
update/insert/delete and perhaps save/cancel buttons. I realize
that most products have the *ability* to do these things, and that
I could implement this with much fiddling, but it would be great if I
could find a product that is able to do this almost out of the box,
with a wizard perhaps.

My first choice would be Java/JDBC, but many users here use
OS/2, and I think that Java is still not all that stable under OS/2. In
any case, I'd prefer a server-side solution so that I don't need to
worry about bugs in different browsers.

I've evaluated the following:

* Microsoft Interdev: uses ODBC, and server-side VBScript or
   JScript. It has a surprisingly good Data Form Wizard which almost
   does what I require. However, it has a number of documented
   bugs when working with Sybase, and I could see all of those.
   Visual Studio Service Pack 1 is supposed to fix those, but after
   applying it, it will always give a useless error (ASP0115), which
   eventually hangs the ASP portion of IIS and can only be recovered
   with a reboot (yawn). I can't guarantee that my ODBC driver is
   perfect, but at least I could connect before applying the fix! I tried
   re-installing Interdev and applying the fix again, but again it stopped
   working totally with Sybase only after applying the fix.

* Lotus Domino (1.5), Lotus Notes 4.51: uses ODBC. This doesn't
   seem to have a real grid/table control that I could use easily; it only
   has text fields. I don't know much about the Notes model, but it seems
   either hard or impossible (via LotusScript) to dynamically generate a
   table which has a number of textfields with the database records in
   them. I can't just make a document beforehand, because I have no way
   of knowing how large a table will be.
       From the Lorus web page, it seems that the ability to control
   transactions has been disabled in LS:DO (LotusScript: Data Object) in
   version 4.51, though it's possible to get around it by issuing straight SQL
   commands to the database server.
        There are also some restrictions on how exactly to program this in
   order to not need ODBC driver loaded for each Notes client, or to get it to
   show in a web browser via Domino.

* Borland Intrabuilder (1.01 trail edition): uses ODBC and server-side
   Javascript. Again this doesn't have a grid control but initial attempts show
   that I can delete/insert/update tables in the Form control (i.e. which shows
   one record at a time on the page). Also a bit of a worry here in Australia is
    that many distributors are still yet to stock version 1.0 :-(   (It's up to
    version 1.5 now).


What else to try?? Cold Fusion sounds popular, but its company seems to
only be in the US - too hard to get support from here. Powerbuilder is a great
product, but can web.pb/PowerBuilder 6 now give good control of database
tables on the web? Their products are still new and I haven't tried them yet.

There's got to be an application which can show database tables, as tables
and not forms, on the web!

____

Remove the x's from my email address.
Re: Manipulating databases from the web!
#4
Author: Frank Molski
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:00
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Kailan,
          There are 50+ products in this category on the market today
ranging in price from $300 to $200 000+. Try HAHTsite 3.0. It is the
best product in kind. Expect to pay $7000+.

Regards,
             Frank

Kailan Oro wrote:
> 
> Hi, I am trying hard to find an application which will enable me to
> display and edit databases via the Web. I'd expect it to work with
> more or less any database (give that I have the correct ODBC
> drivers, etc), but for now it must work with a SYBASE database. I
> have Intersolv v3.0 ODBC driver for Sybase.
> 
> I'd simply like to display the data in a table (i.e. grid) format (NOT
> as a form which shows only one record at a time!), and to have
> update/insert/delete and perhaps save/cancel buttons. I realize
> that most products have the *ability* to do these things, and that
> I could implement this with much fiddling, but it would be great if I
> could find a product that is able to do this almost out of the box,
> with a wizard perhaps.
> 
> My first choice would be Java/JDBC, but many users here use
> OS/2, and I think that Java is still not all that stable under OS/2. In
> any case, I'd prefer a server-side solution so that I don't need to
> worry about bugs in different browsers.
> 
> I've evaluated the following:
> 
> * Microsoft Interdev: uses ODBC, and server-side VBScript or
>    JScript. It has a surprisingly good Data Form Wizard which almost
>    does what I require. However, it has a number of documented
>    bugs when working with Sybase, and I could see all of those.
>    Visual Studio Service Pack 1 is supposed to fix those, but after
>    applying it, it will always give a useless error (ASP0115), which
>    eventually hangs the ASP portion of IIS and can only be recovered
>    with a reboot (yawn). I can't guarantee that my ODBC driver is
>    perfect, but at least I could connect before applying the fix! I tried
>    re-installing Interdev and applying the fix again, but again it stopped
>    working totally with Sybase only after applying the fix.
> 
> * Lotus Domino (1.5), Lotus Notes 4.51: uses ODBC. This doesn't
>    seem to have a real grid/table control that I could use easily; it only
>    has text fields. I don't know much about the Notes model, but it seems
>    either hard or impossible (via LotusScript) to dynamically generate a
>    table which has a number of textfields with the database records in
>    them. I can't just make a document beforehand, because I have no way
>    of knowing how large a table will be.
>        From the Lorus web page, it seems that the ability to control
>    transactions has been disabled in LS:DO (LotusScript: Data Object) in
>    version 4.51, though it's possible to get around it by issuing straight SQL
>    commands to the database server.
>         There are also some restrictions on how exactly to program this in
>    order to not need ODBC driver loaded for each Notes client, or to get it to
>    show in a web browser via Domino.
> 
> * Borland Intrabuilder (1.01 trail edition): uses ODBC and server-side
>    Javascript. Again this doesn't have a grid control but initial attempts show
>    that I can delete/insert/update tables in the Form control (i.e. which shows
>    one record at a time on the page). Also a bit of a worry here in Australia is
>     that many distributors are still yet to stock version 1.0 :-(   (It's up to
>     version 1.5 now).
> 
> What else to try?? Cold Fusion sounds popular, but its company seems to
> only be in the US - too hard to get support from here. Powerbuilder is a great
> product, but can web.pb/PowerBuilder 6 now give good control of database
> tables on the web? Their products are still new and I haven't tried them yet.
> 
> There's got to be an application which can show database tables, as tables
> and not forms, on the web!
> 
> ____
> 
> Remove the x's from my email address.
Re: Manipulating databases from the web!
#5
Author: Mike Ross
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 1997 00:00
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Just do it yourself - it's really not very hard. Just do something like
this:

<%
Set DataConn = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Connection")
DataConn.Open "DSN=YourDB", "Admin", "password"
Set cmdTemp = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Command")
Set recordSet = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.Recordset")
cmdTemp.CommandText = "SELECT `FieldOne`, `FieldTwo`, `FieldThree`, 
FROM `YourTable`
cmdTemp.CommandType = 1
Set cmdTemp.ActiveConnection = DataConn
recordSet.Open cmdTemp, , 1, 3
%>

<table width="100%" border=1>
<tr>
    <td>Field One Label"</td>
    <td>Field Two Label"</td>
    <td>Field Three Label"</td>
</tr>
<%
do while not recordSet.EOF
%>
<tr>
    <td>
        <%=recordset("FieldOne")%>
    </td>
    <td>
        <%=recordset("FieldTwo")%>
    </td>
    <td>
        <%=recordset("FieldThree")%>
    </td>
</tr>
<%
Loop
%>
</table>


That's basically all there is to it - there are various flourishes and
bells and whistles you can add, but the code above basically will
display the data from a table in a web page.

Kailan Oro wrote:
> 
> Hi, I am trying hard to find an application which will enable me to
> display and edit databases via the Web. I'd expect it to work with
> more or less any database (give that I have the correct ODBC
> drivers, etc), but for now it must work with a SYBASE database. I
> have Intersolv v3.0 ODBC driver for Sybase.
> 
> I'd simply like to display the data in a table (i.e. grid) format (NOT
> as a form which shows only one record at a time!), and to have
> update/insert/delete and perhaps save/cancel buttons. I realize
> that most products have the *ability* to do these things, and that
> I could implement this with much fiddling, but it would be great if I
> could find a product that is able to do this almost out of the box,
> with a wizard perhaps.
> 
> My first choice would be Java/JDBC, but many users here use
> OS/2, and I think that Java is still not all that stable under OS/2. In
> any case, I'd prefer a server-side solution so that I don't need to
> worry about bugs in different browsers.
> 
> I've evaluated the following:
> 
> * Microsoft Interdev: uses ODBC, and server-side VBScript or
>    JScript. It has a surprisingly good Data Form Wizard which almost
>    does what I require. However, it has a number of documented
>    bugs when working with Sybase, and I could see all of those.
>    Visual Studio Service Pack 1 is supposed to fix those, but after
>    applying it, it will always give a useless error (ASP0115), which
>    eventually hangs the ASP portion of IIS and can only be recovered
>    with a reboot (yawn). I can't guarantee that my ODBC driver is
>    perfect, but at least I could connect before applying the fix! I tried
>    re-installing Interdev and applying the fix again, but again it stopped
>    working totally with Sybase only after applying the fix.
> 
> * Lotus Domino (1.5), Lotus Notes 4.51: uses ODBC. This doesn't
>    seem to have a real grid/table control that I could use easily; it only
>    has text fields. I don't know much about the Notes model, but it seems
>    either hard or impossible (via LotusScript) to dynamically generate a
>    table which has a number of textfields with the database records in
>    them. I can't just make a document beforehand, because I have no way
>    of knowing how large a table will be.
>        From the Lorus web page, it seems that the ability to control
>    transactions has been disabled in LS:DO (LotusScript: Data Object) in
>    version 4.51, though it's possible to get around it by issuing straight SQL
>    commands to the database server.
>         There are also some restrictions on how exactly to program this in
>    order to not need ODBC driver loaded for each Notes client, or to get it to
>    show in a web browser via Domino.
> 
> * Borland Intrabuilder (1.01 trail edition): uses ODBC and server-side
>    Javascript. Again this doesn't have a grid control but initial attempts show
>    that I can delete/insert/update tables in the Form control (i.e. which shows
>    one record at a time on the page). Also a bit of a worry here in Australia is
>     that many distributors are still yet to stock version 1.0 :-(   (It's up to
>     version 1.5 now).
> 
> What else to try?? Cold Fusion sounds popular, but its company seems to
> only be in the US - too hard to get support from here. Powerbuilder is a great
> product, but can web.pb/PowerBuilder 6 now give good control of database
> tables on the web? Their products are still new and I haven't tried them yet.
> 
> There's got to be an application which can show database tables, as tables
> and not forms, on the web!
> 
> ____
> 
> Remove the x's from my email address.
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