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Article #4Re: Deep- vs. surface structure
From: Chris Lofting
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:00
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 00:00
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Another perspective?: (deep/surface is a dichotomy and so all possible descriptions of the relationships are 'known'....) http://www.ozemail.com.au/~ddiamond Chris Lofting. Cijadrachon wrote in message <3613035d.47744380@news.zedat.fu-berlin.de>... >mentifex@scn.org (Mentifex) wrote: > >> Please first read up on the Default Standard Model of Mind online at >No thanks. >I already see the stuff you write here: >> >> /^^^^^^^^^^^\ Deep Structure: Surface Structure /^^^^^^^^^^^\ >> /visual memory\ ________ / auditory \ >>| /--------|-------\ / syntax \ |episodic memory| >>| | recog-|nition | \________/---|-------------\ | >>| ___|___ | | | | _______ | | >>| /image \ | __V___ ___V___ | /stored \ | | >>| / percept \ | /deep \------/lexical\----|--/ phonemes\| | >>| \ engrams /---|---/concepts\----/concepts \---|--\ of words/ | >>| \_______/ | \________/ \_________/ | \_______/ | > > >First of all: No definition of which aras you count into the mind and >which ones not. > >Then: >No discerning of different systems with visual memory in the brain. >No magical understanding of the brain. >No language structure understanding of the brain. >No recognition understanding of the mind. >- No definition of "episodic memory"? >- No definition of "deep concepts" >And so on. > >How about some day you get a vague idea either about the human brain >ar about building artificial intelligences, before keeping sending >them totally ... models like that one and others, >and naming them something to do with " THE STANDARD model of mind" > >There is nothing stnadard about it but the standard of you being wrong >in lot of you rmodels.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 1045ed,5a0bb91425def02c X-Google-Attributes: gid1045ed,public X-Google-Thread: 10d04f,e7b44b11f6ecfb70 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d04f,public X-Google-Thread: 10461e,e7b44b11f6ecfb70 X-Google-Attributes: gid10461e,public X-Google-Thread: 1027c4,e7b44b11f6ecfb70 X-Google-Attributes: gid1027c4,public X-Google-Thread: 100923,5a0bb91425def02c X-Google-Attributes: gid100923,public X-Google-Thread: 10a20a,5a0bb91425def02c X-Google-Attributes: gid10a20a,public From: "Chris Lofting" <ddiamond@ozemail.com.au> Subject: Re: Deep- vs. surface structure Date: 1998/10/10 Message-ID: <6vl8t0$pu9$1@reader1.reader.news.ozemail.net> X-Deja-AN: 399372773 References: <3611F8FE.50813907@bi.no> <36125228.0@news.victoria.tc.ca> <3613035d.47744380@news.zedat.fu-berlin.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Organization: OzEmail Ltd. Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.search,comp.ai,comp.ai.neural-nets,comp.ai.nat-lang,sci.lang,bionet.neuroscience