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Article #249Really bad Motif justification revisited
From: Olaf Titz
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 20:41
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 1993 20:41
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In article <MARCA.93Nov22051031@wintermute.ncsa.uiuc.edu>,
Marc Andreessen <marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu> wrote:
> Motif is the closest thing there is to a de facto interface
> standard on Unix workstations. (Athena does *not* count, and
> neither does tcl/tk -- flames will be ineffectual as we take
> Mosaic too seriously to base it on anything not directly supported
> by the majority of hw/sw vendors out there. And besides, there's
Do you take it seriously enough to not piss off those people who are
interested in *free* software too? Or are these simply not to be taken
seriously? :-(
> already a fine tcl/tk browser.)
> No, Motif isn't free, and it doesn't come with Linux and similar
> systems. All I can say is that for Mosaic for X's target user
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> base, the vendors have it covered, and for the user base of which
====
Define this.
> Linux is a part (Intel 386/486/Pentium), we're developing Mosaic
> for Windows. Not a perfect solution, but it does give us broader
I read this as "We [academic institution without profit intention
behind - or correct me if I'm wrong] are mainly interested in support
for the broadest user base of *commercial* systems." Surprise...
But what really makes the reader sad and angry is the following "and
those people who don't want to buy Motif are, anyway, better off with
DOS and Windows." Has this Windocentristic narrow-mindedness already
hit academia?
> coverage than any of the imaginable alternatives with the
> foundation of vendor-supported technology on each platform. Also,
You may be right a thousand times [which can well be doubted], but
this doesn't excuse the "justification" given above. NCSA is making
excellent products and your , but don't tell me that if I'm just a
poor student with an old 386 and no extra $$$ to spend on software the
right thing for me is MSWindoze.
Olaf
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