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Re: FCBs

#105
From: deathbringer
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 1999 00:00
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MadAdmin:

In response to your inquiries:

MadAdmin wrote in message <7cqshf$kep$3@news-2.news.gte.net>...
>On 17 Mar 1999 22:51:40 GMT, "deathbringer" <someone@home.com> wrote:
>
>>MadAdmin:
>>
>>    My response to your response as follows:
>>
>>MadAdmin wrote in message <7cogaj$kca$3@news-2.news.gte.net>...
>>>On 17 Mar 1999 13:58:18 GMT, "saddle" <saddle@bigpond.com> wrote:
>>
>><snipped for berevity sake)>
>>
>>>Do you use FCBs or file handles?
>>
>>Occasionally, though not very often, it would depend on the hardware and
OS.
>>
>
>What OS nowdays uses FCBs???

I ocasionally set up XT's and 286's and donate them to charities and small
interest groups, not to mention how many people I have given 386's to in the
last 6 months, kinda trying to keep the spirit of information freedom alive.
As to the OS? What ever the hardware can handle my friend :)

>
>>>10 years ago we were staying away rom FCBs in DOS since file handles
worked
>>a lot cleaner.
>>
>>They did.
>>
>>>My understanding was DOS didn't do FCBs nearly as well as CP/M did.
>>
>>It doesn't
>>
>>>Also the embedded stuff I dealt with back then used either
>>>proprietary/homegrown OSes that were small enough to fit in ROM.
>>
>>Ah...the good old days :) When people who used computers actually
understood
>>how they worked :)
>>
>
>Heh. Those were the fun days! My first few computers had full
>schematics. I even got hold of a macro assembler for Z80 and was
>putting macros in so I could do the few extra instructions on the 8085
>on that machine. I also soldered a ribbon cable to a socket to put
>inbetween the socket on the board and the Z80 so I could pull out all
>lines and build an external bus. Then before I ever got around to
>building my 8085 based robot I got sucked up into the DOS world and my
>CP/M, Z80, and 8085 projects all went by the wayside. It was actually
>painful when I got rid of all the old stuff!

Ah...The project days...I remember my first solar roller. Took me a bitch of
a time to figure out transistors at first though :) I miss playing around
too. Things were so much simpler then. You can do more now, but understand
less day by day.

 >I'm reacquiring a collection of odds and ends now but it's all primarily
486 and >newer stuff.

You would love my shed. Stacks and stacks of Sun Microsystem UNIX boxes from
85, old ataris, TSR80's, commodor 64's, christ, I think I even have a PET in
there (Or did I throw that old paper weight out last year?) God knows, the
place is just filled with shit accross quite a few computing eras :) I still
have too many XT's, Too Many 286's, and 386's etc, and one of these days
I'll fix them up and give them a home.

 >I think the smallest hard drive I have now is 70 Meg and it
>wasn't that many years ago that my largest one was that big!

Really? I still have a whole whack of MFM/RLL Drives, Tape Drives, and
seemingly all other forms of computer data storage (except punch cards,
someone offered me a punch card reader last year but I didn't have the room,
and I had no idea how to use the thing :) Hell, I think I even have a few
boxes with 8inch floppys. Not that the media is any good anymore.
Still...you never know.

>> >Most of the stuff I dealt with was Z-80 based at the time but some of
the
>>>devices used ladder logic rather than assembler for programming!
>>
>>That makes some sense. Sounds like you have been around my friend.
>>
>
>Heh heh heh. I took my first computer class in 1980 and my first
>program written on a PC was on a TRS-80 and my most in-depth assembler
>programming was done on Z80. Hmmm... the number 80 figured rather
>prominently in my life!

Pretty much the same here.

>Anyhow yes I've done a little bit of everything over the past 19 years!

Yes somehow I wish that we could bring back the days when a hacker was
considered an independant scientist bent on the betterment of man... Not a
bunch of children flaming each other in a newsgroup...

 >And to think that when I was a kid I wanted to be a professional bass
fisherman >when I grew up!!!!

I wanted to be an astronaut. hell who knows, maybe someday I still can.
Though I still fight the growing up concept all these years later (grin)

>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>The sig.....
>>>
>>>"Bother," said Pooh.
>>>"Eeyore, ready two photon torpedoes
>>>and lock phasers on the Heffalump.
>>>Piglet, meet me in Transporter Room Three."
>>
>>                                            I Remain,
>>                                                Death Bringer
>>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>The sig.....
>
>"We are the bastard daemon penguins from the sun and we're here to
>take over the world! BWAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!"

                                Take Care My Friend,

                                        I Am,
                                            Death Bringer
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From: "deathbringer" <someone@home.com>
Subject: Re: FCBs
Date: 1999/03/18
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