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Article #59Re: Absolute addresses, relative addresses
From: Alex McDonald
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:51
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:51
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"Eric Minso" <minso@altern.org> wrote in message news:7db38e60.0308270023.1d3f4cf@posting.google.com... > "Alex McDonald" <alex_mcd@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news: > > > Yes, the program I have to write really looks like a virus. > > > > > > I am a trainee in a IT company, and my training subject is to write an > > > Windows EXE protection program. This program must encrypt the > > > executable's code section and add a decryption routine inside the > > > executable. > > > > > > > Why? Are they in the virus business? There's plenty of ways to protect their > > intellectual property without writing a virus look-alike. Use a product that > > doesn't look like a virus and that works -- try googling on "exe encryption" > > for examples. > > No, they are not in the virus business. > They just want to develop themselve their protection program (and own > the source code). What advantage does this bring them? > I looked for examples on the internet, but most of > them aren't free. > > > > > The first approach I tried was to make a kind of winzip > > > self-extractor. The main problem is that a temporary file is required > > > : it is not a very secure solution :-( The other main problem is that > > > it's always crashing :-((. > > > > > > The virus-like approach seems to be the most interesting (and easy) > > > because the decryption job is done in memory and don't need a > > > temporary file. There is also some common virus sources available on > > > the internet, so a part of the job is already done :-) > > > > Your company would be mad letting you write something based on a virus. > > My boss said that it is a way that should be explored. > I am just a trainee :-) Owning a handgun is illegal in the UK; it's no defence to suggest you're just taking it apart to make a pencil holder. Ask for another project. > > > > > The main problem is that it seems that assembly language is required > > > and I still have some troubles with absolute and relative addresses. > > > The other main problem is that I fear my program will be seen as a > > > virus by antiviruses. > > > > > > > Even more sucking of teeth... if you use any of the widely available virus > > sources, that's definitely true. If you've think you've got problems with > > relative and absolute addresses, just think how it's going to be with the > > police when they visit. > > Why ? I do nothing illegal ! I am NOT developing a new virus. I disagree. > I am > looking for a way to protect an EXE file. When I looked for examples > on the internet, the only examples I found were virus-related. That's because you _are_ writing a new virus. > > Now, if you have any other idea for protecting executables, I will be > happy to have it. > I know how to; I'm not posting the answer. Take a course at the University of Calgary; then if you're lucky only the University and your boss will get sued when your company issues your code. http://antivirus.about.com/library/weekly/aa052303b.htm -- Regards Alex McDonald
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