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Re: "SHOULD I DUMP VISUAL BASIC?"

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From: Quoc Thang Nguyen
Date: Mon, 05 Feb 1996 23:19
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In article <4etkm5$n3p@newshost.cyberramp.net>,
   gcopelan@cyberramp.net (George Copeland) wrote:

>Forgive me, but your attitude is absolutely moronic. 

>VB is comparable to Pascal in every way, except for I/O, 
>which VB handles *MUCH* better. 

Could you be more specific please? I am under the impression 
that VB does not even have instructions to do port I/O... 
Going through a VXB or (worse) an OCX to poll a port does 
not seem to me to be the best solution...
Have you ever programmed anything serious in Object Pascal 
in Delphi?  You assert that "VB is comparable to Pascal in 
every way"; Are we talking about pointers here? Inheritance? 
Object-oriented components?

>It is interpreted because it makes the executables 
>miniscule in size.
  
Persuasive argument. Have you taken into account the size of 
VBRUNxxx? And the time it takes to load? And the 1.4MB+ of 
files you have to distribute with (in VB4.0)? And the 
VBXs? And the OCXs? That surely makes the executables 
"miniscule" (sic) in size!

>Why compile all that window-manipulation code in each
>program when they all do the same thing?  Doesn't this part 
>of the project sound like the part that should be written 
>in C and called, just like Microsoft implemented it?

Brilliant idea. Powerfully reasoned. All programs should use 
VBRUNxxx. They all do the same thing, of course! You should 
go to Microsoft and tell them: "You guys are morons! Don't 
you see that you can write Excel, PowerPoint, and Word in 
Visual Basic? And, heck, why not VC4.0 in Visual Basic?"

>Multithreading, eh?  You really think you are ready to 
>write a multhreaded application?  Given that you don't 
>appear to know the basics of project management, I 
>sincerely doubt it.

Enlightening point of view. Then, why Microsoft is marketing 
Win95 and WinNT to developers as operating systems capable 
or running multithreaded programs? Why is their next 
generation of apps multithreaded? They must be utterly 
ignorant of the basics of project management, no doubt.

>And as for Microsoft, from my perspective, they are a 
>company that puts products out there that help me do my 
>job.

I agree wholeheartedly. All other companies are part of a 
gigantic worlwide conspiration to mess up with your job. 
Thank you Microsoft for saving my life, too. Thank you for 
giving me a reason to dish out mega-bucks to get a faster 
processor and twice as much memory...

>What the heck have you done to help anyone lately, pal?

I don't know. Not much. Same with you, perhaps?




Quoc Thang NGUYEN
Laboratory of Cellular and
Molecular Neurobiology
Dept. of Psychobiology
University of California, Irvine
Irvine, CA92717 USA
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Subject: Re: "SHOULD I DUMP VISUAL BASIC?"
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