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I know that it didn't work well in vb5, so this is good news.

You're using a non-Asian Windows version?

Hidulf wrote:

> 1. yes, the English version of VB can handle the Chinese character, n I m
> using the vb6 pro (English) n can make quite a lot of Chinese program. u can
> use the Chinese everywhere in the VB in all the object.
>
> 2. the Chinese character is sort by the ASCII code as the same as English
> character. if u convert the Chinese character into symbol, then u will able
> to see there is 2 symbol. the computer is sort the Chinese character by
> that. if you want to sort the Chinese string, just sort it as same as sort
> the English string. the computer will handle it.
>
> 3. what do you mean by the range of Chinese character? you want to control
> the Chinese character of the user entered? it may have a little bit trouble
> because the Chinese character is not same as English n you will be in
> trouble to set the range for some special character allowed.
>
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1. yes, the English version of VB can handle the Chinese character, n I m
using the vb6 pro (English) n can make quite a lot of Chinese program. u can
use the Chinese everywhere in the VB in all the object.

2. the Chinese character is sort by the ASCII code as the same as English
character. if u convert the Chinese character into symbol, then u will able
to see there is 2 symbol. the computer is sort the Chinese character by
that. if you want to sort the Chinese string, just sort it as same as sort
the English string. the computer will handle it.

3. what do you mean by the range of Chinese character? you want to control
the Chinese character of the user entered? it may have a little bit trouble
because the Chinese character is not same as English n you will be in
trouble to set the range for some special character allowed.

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    http://fast.to/hidulf/
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Thanks for the info.

Hidulf wrote:
> 
[...]
> 2. the Chinese character is sort by the ASCII code as the same as English
> character. if u convert the Chinese character into symbol, then u will able
> to see there is 2 symbol. the computer is sort the Chinese character by
> that. if you want to sort the Chinese string, just sort it as same as sort
> the English string. the computer will handle it.
> 

It seems to me that Chinese characters are sorted by the number of
strokes. So for example, the character for "big" (Da in Mandarin, Tai in
Cantonese) comes before the character for "middle" (Zhong, the first
character in the name "China") because the former has two strokes in it
and the second has three strokes. Does the double-byte set order support
this? Does the computer sorting support this?

> 3. what do you mean by the range of Chinese character? you want to control
> the Chinese character of the user entered? it may have a little bit trouble
> because the Chinese character is not same as English n you will be in
> trouble to set the range for some special character allowed.
> 

In the English version of my application, the user can specify "Give me
all names that are lexicographically bigger than 'A' and less than 'G'
". So the name Chris falls in the range, but Micro doesn't. In order to
do something like this in Chinese characters there has to be a
conventional sort order among the Chinese characters that is supported
by the computer (and the double-byte set order). Is there?

Thanks
Sleiman

Thanks for the info.

Hidulf wrote:
> 
[...]
> 2. the Chinese character is sort by the ASCII code as the same as English
> character. if u convert the Chinese character into symbol, then u will able
> to see there is 2 symbol. the computer is sort the Chinese character by
> that. if you want to sort the Chinese string, just sort it as same as sort
> the English string. the computer will handle it.
> 

It seems to me that Chinese characters are sorted by the number of
strokes. So for example, the character for "big" (Da in Mandarin, Tai in
Cantonese) comes before the character for "middle" (Zhong, the first
character in the name "China") because the former has two strokes in it
and the second has three strokes. Does the double-byte set order support
this? Does the computer sorting support this?

> 3. what do you mean by the range of Chinese character? you want to control
> the Chinese character of the user entered? it may have a little bit trouble
> because the Chinese character is not same as English n you will be in
> trouble to set the range for some special character allowed.
> 

In the English version of my application, the user can specify "Give me
all names that are lexicographically bigger than 'A' and less than 'G'
". So the name Chris falls in the range, but Micro doesn't. In order to
do something like this in Chinese characters there has to be a
conventional sort order among the Chinese characters that is supported
by the computer (and the double-byte set order). Is there?

Thanks
Sleiman

Thanks for the info.

Hidulf wrote:
> 
[...]
> 2. the Chinese character is sort by the ASCII code as the same as English
> character. if u convert the Chinese character into symbol, then u will able
> to see there is 2 symbol. the computer is sort the Chinese character by
> that. if you want to sort the Chinese string, just sort it as same as sort
> the English string. the computer will handle it.
> 

It seems to me that Chinese characters are sorted by the number of
strokes. So for example, the character for "big" (Da in Mandarin, Tai in
Cantonese) comes before the character for "middle" (Zhong, the first
character in the name "China") because the former has two strokes in it
and the second has three strokes. Does the double-byte set order support
this? Does the computer sorting support this?

> 3. what do you mean by the range of Chinese character? you want to control
> the Chinese character of the user entered? it may have a little bit trouble
> because the Chinese character is not same as English n you will be in
> trouble to set the range for some special character allowed.
> 

In the English version of my application, the user can specify "Give me
all names that are lexicographically bigger than 'A' and less than 'G'
". So the name Chris falls in the range, but Micro doesn't. In order to
do something like this in Chinese characters there has to be a
conventional sort order among the Chinese characters that is supported
by the computer (and the double-byte set order). Is there?

Thanks
Sleiman

Sleiman ���g��峹 <35FE1C35.109B0EC4@hkisl.net>...
>Hello,
>
>I have almost finished making an application in VB4.0 PRO (English
>version). Now the next task is to translate the application to Chinese.
>Few questions I have, and I'd appreciate input:
>(1) Can VB4.0 (English) handle Chinese fonts? The images that contain
>English will be changed to images with Chinese writing. How about:
> o Displaying Chinese characters in message boxes?
> o Displaying Chinese characters in Apex True DBGrid?
> o Displaying Chinese characters in the caption of forms?
>Can the English version handle the task or do I have to purchase VB4.0
>in Chinese?
>(2) Sorting is an issue when dealing with Chinese characters. How can I
>sort by name? How does Excel, for example, sort Chinese names? Is there
>a code written that handles sorting Chinese strings?
>(3) Specifying a range of names is another issue. In English I can say
>"All names between A and E". How is this done in Chinese?
>
>Thank you
>Sleiman
>PS. Please reply to sender as well when you reply to this message.

I don't believe VB 4.0 will handle Chinese fonts very well.  Contact Whipple
Ware (www.whippleware.com).  They have a product for doing translations,
when you don't design it for translation from the ground up.

VB 5 will handle resource strings, which makes the translations easier.

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>Sleiman ���g��峹 <35FE1C35.109B0EC4@hkisl.net>...
>>Hello,
>>
>>I have almost finished making an application in VB4.0 PRO (English
>>version). Now the next task is to translate the application to Chinese.
>>Few questions I have, and I'd appreciate input:
>>(1) Can VB4.0 (English) handle Chinese fonts? The images that contain
>>English will be changed to images with Chinese writing. How about:
>> o Displaying Chinese characters in message boxes?
>> o Displaying Chinese characters in Apex True DBGrid?
>> o Displaying Chinese characters in the caption of forms?
>>Can the English version handle the task or do I have to purchase VB4.0
>>in Chinese?
>>(2) Sorting is an issue when dealing with Chinese characters. How can I
>>sort by name? How does Excel, for example, sort Chinese names? Is there
>>a code written that handles sorting Chinese strings?
>>(3) Specifying a range of names is another issue. In English I can say
>>"All names between A and E". How is this done in Chinese?
>>
>>Thank you
>>Sleiman
>>PS. Please reply to sender as well when you reply to this message.
>
>