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Article #78Clipper Forum Message 554967
From: Hugh A. Lokey
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:12
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:12
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The following message was originally posted in the Clipper forum on CIS. It was moved from public view and is posted here with permission of the author. Subj: FiveWin and Law issues Section: 3rd Party Support To: ALL Thursday, January 18, 1996 9:26:07 AM From: Francisco Morero, 103523,3465 #554967 HOW FIVEWIN 1.0 WAS DONE Complying with the wishes of many people that are interested in this matter, and considering this subject an important one (even though it's not a technical subject), I'm coming out of my silence (it's about time) and say publicly what I and some other people know. * I know Antonio Linares since I was around 8 or 9 years old. We went together to grammar school, high school and the 1st year of college. We have worked together in several projects for at least 5 years, and both have consulted each other in a multitude of occasions. * Mr. Linares, in one occasion, called me to my house ( he used to called almost daily) to ask me to help him with a problem he couldn't resolve. Back then, Mr. Linares was a beta-tester of Clip4Win and was working on the same thing, porting Clipper to Windows. When I got to his house, he told me "I've been like crazy for several days trying to find out how John Skelton did it" ( porting Clipper to Windows ). Then he showed me two files loaded on his word-processor (Qedit). This two files were the original from Clipper and the same module from Clip4Win, both DISASSEMBLED. Then he proceeded to show me the differences between both modules and said "Look how Skelton has touched the module, just like a surgeon: a couple of things here and there" ( those who knows Antonio Linares will recognized one of his favorite phrases whenever he finds something/somebody very good: "like a surgeon" ). * After showing me the disassembled code, he asked me to help him figure out how Clip4Win worked internally to reproduce it into his new project ( later known as Fivewin 1.0 ). This I did not agree with so I didn't help. * A few weeks later, we bumped into each other in a computer store of a common friend. After chatting for about 2 hours, he confess to me that he could figure out most of the operatoria of Clip4Win but there was a couple of modules that resisted him. * After this, Antonio Linares and I have serious discrepancies and we stopped to treat each other with the same tone. From persons very close to me, and _VERY_ close to Antonio Linares, I know for a fact how this issue about the resisting modules was resolved by Mr. Linares, but respecting this persons wishes, I can only mention here what Mr. Linares told me. * About all the things I have mentioned here I ( and several other people that I can't mentioned here ) have FACTUAL PROOFS for a long time. Here in this public forum I put myself, my testimony and all the proofs I have to the entire disposition of Mr. Skelton whenever he wants or need them so this issue can be clarify once and for all. * I'M READY TO TESTIFY EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE IN FRONT OF ANY JUDGE OR COURT, PUT MYSELF THROUGH A LIAR DETECTOR IF NECESSARY. * This are not calumnies, but a FORMAL DECLARATION OF FACTS. For now, I have nothing more to say, and unless the rest of the users of this media ask me to do so. Of course, I reserve the right to keep talking about this subject ( or any other I consider of public interest to all CA-Clipper users and third-party tools ). NOTE: All I've said here written in my poor English, is also written in another document in perfect castillian Spanish and it's at the disposition of any who wishes to have it. Francisco Morero.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!ix.netcom.com!netnews From: hughl@ix.netcom.com(Hugh A. Lokey ) Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.visual,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.pascal,comp.lang.tcl,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.perl,comp.lang.asm.x86,comp.lang.fortran,comp.lang.postscript,comp.lang.java,comp.lang.clipper,comp.lang.forth,comp.lang.cobol,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.python,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.scheme Subject: Clipper Forum Message 554967 Date: 22 Jan 1996 12:12:23 GMT Organization: Netcom Message-ID: <4dvuv7$pu0@ixnews8.ix.netcom.com> References: <4at4t0$j5j@garden.csc.calpoly.edu> <4ctv1h$i05@tofu.alt.net> <4cu8a8$23p@nova.dimensional.com> <4d0i2f$g0b@tofu.alt.net> <4d0p6i$6p6@solutions.solon.com> <31033e7f.2913386@news.netvision.net.il> NNTP-Posting-Host: aug-ga1-21.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Mon Jan 22 4:12:23 AM PST 1996