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Clipper Forum Message 554967

#78
From: Hugh A. Lokey
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 1996 12:12
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The following message was originally posted in the Clipper forum on
CIS.  It was moved from public view and is posted here with permission
of the author.

Subj:  FiveWin and Law issues		Section: 3rd Party Support
  To:  ALL				Thursday, January 18, 1996 9:26:07 AM
From:  Francisco Morero, 103523,3465	#554967

HOW FIVEWIN 1.0 WAS DONE

Complying with the wishes of many people that are interested in this
matter, and considering this subject an important one (even though it's
not a technical subject), I'm coming out of my silence (it's about
time) and say publicly what I and some other people know.

	* I know Antonio Linares since I was around 8 or 9 years old. We
went together to grammar school, high school and the 1st year of
college. We have worked together in several projects for at least 5
years, and both have consulted each other in a multitude of occasions.

	* Mr. Linares, in one occasion,  called me to my house ( he used
to called almost daily) to ask me to help him with a problem he
couldn't resolve. Back then, Mr. Linares was a beta-tester of Clip4Win
and was working on the same thing, porting Clipper to Windows. When I
got to his house, he told me "I've been like crazy for several days
trying to find out how John Skelton did it" ( porting Clipper to
Windows ). Then he showed me two files loaded on his word-processor
(Qedit). This two files were the original from Clipper and the 
same module from Clip4Win, both DISASSEMBLED. Then he proceeded to 
show me the differences between both modules and said "Look how Skelton

has touched the module, just like a surgeon: a couple of things here
and there" ( those who knows Antonio Linares will recognized one of his
favorite phrases whenever he finds something/somebody very good: "like
a surgeon" ).

	* After showing me the disassembled code, he asked me to help him

figure out how Clip4Win worked internally to reproduce it into his new
project ( later known as Fivewin 1.0 ). This I did not agree with so I
didn't help.

	* A few weeks later, we bumped into each other in a computer
store of a common friend. After chatting for about 2 hours, he confess
to me that he could figure out most of the operatoria of Clip4Win but
there was a couple of modules 
that resisted him.

	* After this, Antonio Linares and I have serious discrepancies
and we stopped to treat each other with the same tone. From persons
very close to me, and _VERY_ close to Antonio Linares, I know for a
fact how this issue about the resisting modules was resolved by Mr.
Linares, but respecting this persons wishes, I can only mention here
what Mr. Linares told me.

	* About all the things I have mentioned here I ( and several
other people that I can't mentioned here ) have FACTUAL PROOFS for a
long time. Here in this public forum I put myself, my testimony and all
the proofs I have to the entire disposition of Mr. Skelton whenever he
wants or need them so this issue can be clarify once and for all.

	* I'M READY TO TESTIFY EVERYTHING I'VE SAID HERE IN FRONT OF 
ANY JUDGE OR COURT, PUT MYSELF THROUGH A LIAR DETECTOR IF NECESSARY.

	* This are not calumnies, but a FORMAL DECLARATION OF FACTS. 
For now, I have nothing more to say, and unless the rest of the users
of this media ask me to do so. Of course, I reserve the right to keep
talking about this subject ( or any other I consider of public interest
to all CA-Clipper users and third-party tools ).

NOTE: All I've said here written in my poor English, is also written in
another document in perfect castillian Spanish and it's at the
disposition of any who wishes to have it.

Francisco Morero.
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