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Re: Beginner's Question - CLOS

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From: Jeff Dalton
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:53
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Harley Davis writes in response to kanderso@BBN.COM (indented):

>    What would you leave out of CLOS and the MOP?

>                    It is not so much a
> question of what we have left out of CLOS and the MOP, but where we
> put various aspects.

Once you have a large language it's very hard to take things out.
People disagree.  What's an eyesore to one is especially prized
by another.  The very idea of changing the size of the language
is disputed.  And so on.

This sort of thing has, hostorically, made the idea of subsets
very controversial in Common Lisp circles.  The same problem
happens from the other side in Scheme: it's almost impossible
to get an agreement to _add_ something.

In EuLisp, we've followed languages such as C and put lots of things
in libraries.  

>   Lisp has fought an uphill battle in the conventional world
> because Lisp program development has been seen as incremental
> modification of the state of the Lisp image.

But not by everyone.  This is primarily a Lisp machine, Interlisp
way of looking at things.  (I think.)

-- jd
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