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;;i miss my symbolics.  is there a clos implementation & development
;;environment available for "standard" architectures (sparc & hp specifically)
;;i need such things as a class examiner (like the symbolics flavor examiner),
;;good debugger, network capability, multi-processes, good inter-process
;;communication (both on the same box and other boxes on the network), and 
;;a file cm/cc system.  thanks.

is there a clos imp? yes, there are at least two. Lucid and Franz Inc.
both have pretty good versions of CLOS. I use Franz' version. because
of this, following answers apply only to it...

class examiner: none that I know of. 

good debugger: well, it's not bad, but not the window debugger. I'm
working on a window debugger that runs under CLIM (the version I have
is for Lucid...which I can't test).

network capability: not sure what you mean, but it is possible to do
IPC/RPC sorts of things via sockets.

multi-process: lightweight processes are there. i use them all the
time. the startup stream is really more equivalent to the cold-load
stream. 

ipc: i worked a project with this last year, using a third-party comm
toolkit (ISIS). once ISIS settled down (it was prone to wedging until
V3), it went pretty smoothly, for about 8 machines (incl two SGs). 

I don't know what "file cm/cc" is...

whatever you get, it's not going to be Genera.

Franz at least has decent link with Emacs/Epoch, which I use. that's
about the closest to ZMACS as is possible.

 -- clint
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