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Article #1166Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer
From: john p radigan
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:03
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 13:03
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Joachim Durchholz (jhd@herold.franken.de) wrote: : I haven't said a word of design phase vs. programming phase. And my : impression is indeed that a hacker doesn't want to waste time on design : when he could use to build working programs. But that is more a question : of the point of view; the hackers that build large systems do design in an : informal way, and they usually don't document it. Nevertheless all larger : programs done by hackers have a design. I don't think it's a point of view, the evidence is usually in the code itself. Even without a formal design specification beforehand, the quality of output seperates the truely dangerous code-first mentality from the ones who had a clear understanding of the problem before they ever fired up the editor. : And on the design side, I have seen hours spent on design meetings, put : the results into specifications - only to discover two weeks later that : the specifications were utter sh*t. Such incidents don't exactly encourage : hackers to spend time on design. That's short-sighted at best, a thoughtful person can seperate the process of design from the poor leadership that resulted in a useless specification. -jack-
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!netaxis.com!davinci!jradigan From: jradigan@davinci (john p radigan) Newsgroups: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.object,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer Followup-To: comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.c,comp.lang.c++,comp.object,comp.software-eng Date: 18 Mar 1996 13:03:21 GMT Organization: NetAxis - Your link to the Internet! Message-ID: <4ijmup$dvl@henry.netaxis.com> References: <1995Jul3.034108.4193@rcmcon.com> <3taaha$p8j@ixnews3.ix.netcom.co <64ss5$3F3RB@herold.franken.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: davinci.netaxis.com X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2]