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Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer

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From: Joachim Durchholz
Date: Mon, 18 Mar 1996 21:54
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bks@netcom.com wrote 18.03.96 on Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer:

> Typical OO enthusiast.  After 10 years Eiffel is still *new*.

Huh? How is OO enthusiasm related to Eiffel being new?

Besides, what version of Eiffel do you mean - some experimental compiler  
that demonstrated some issues about proving program correctness, or a  
compiler that can be used for production programming?

Considering the life cycle of new programming concepts, Eiffel is more in  
a position like Algol 60 - it is the first language that demonstrates the  
new principles in a convincing way. (C++ doesn't convince me. That is a  
language like PL/I - designed by committees made up of industrial  
representatives, with lots of mechanisms, but no straighforward  
solutions.)
Algol 60 hasn't exactly come into widespread use, but C is one of its  
descendants (like the vast majority of modern programming languages).  
Eiffel may meet the same fate, being an unsuccesful progenitor of a  
successful language. But the language to replace Eiffel in the programming  
community hasn't been specified yet, and I doubt it can be done before  
more experience with OO has been collected.

-Joachim

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Im speaking for myself here.
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