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Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer

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From: Tom Wheeley
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 1996 01:41
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In article <4j7gdp$cl7@solutions.solon.com>
           seebs@solutions.solon.com "Peter Seebach" writes:

> In article <827765484snz@tsys.demon.co.uk>,
> Tom Wheeley  <tomw@tsys.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >Surely you have just proved that the standard library is _not_ part of the
> >C language.  At the risk of seeming -pedantic, I would say that the standard
> >library is a part of the _standard C *implementation*_, but not a part of
> >the standard C *language*.
> 
> Nope.  "This International Standard specifies and establishes the
> interpretation of programs written in the C programming language."  What
> it specifies is C.

OK, I'll try and rephrase my thoughts:

I consider the standard library, and the basic syntax of C to be slightly
separate entities, combined into the C Programming Language.  By syntax I
mean everything that doesn't have () at the end of it.  Maybe I'm just stating
the obvious now, and losing the point altogether, I'm not sure :)

>
> >That is why you can build the standard library within C -- you cannot write
> >the entire standard library using the standard library, therefore if the
> >standard library is a part of the C language, then the standard library is
> >no longer written in the C language, but only a limited subset thereof.
> 
> You cannot write the standard library in C; at least, not completely.  You

Yes, I have read yours (and Kazimir's (sp?) follow-ups), and I err, retract
that argumant as making no sense :)

.splitbung
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From: Tom Wheeley <tomw@tsys.demon.co.uk>
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Subject: Re: Beware of "C" Hackers -- A rebuttal to Bertrand Meyer
Date: Wed, 27 Mar 96 01:41:44 GMT
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