🚀 go-pugleaf

Dellis Hines (dellish@datalytics.com) wrote:
:Ell wrote:
:> Kazimir Kylheku (c2a192@ugrad.cs.ubc.ca) wrote:
:>: Ell <ell@access4.digex.net> wrote:
:>: >You are in "hell" when don't see the existence and importance of
:>: >Object-Oriented Analysis (OOA), in my opinion.  But that is nature of some
:>: >types in the OO arena.
 
:> :The OO arena is a philosophical one. I don't particularly subscribe to the
:> : view
:> :that there ought to be a naive correspondence between software entities and
:> :some ``real world'' entities, except when it's utterly convenient, and on
:> :the third Wednesday of every month.

:> :The whole thing is a little childish and naive when taken too far.
 
:> You know what is a real crime is the time and money wasted by those who
:> ignore and downplay OOA.
:> 
:> Elliott
 
:I believe that you should go back and read the post you're replying to, 
:where the writer clearly 
:states 'when taken TOO far'.  

I guess my point is OOA hasn't been taken far enough - there are many
projects where it has not been carried out, or carried aout well in the
past.

:To imagine that OOA/OOP is a do all/end all and a silver bullet (you 
:know what Fred Brooks says about those) that cures all ills is more than a 
:bit misguided.  

I have never said OOA/OOP "cures all ills".  I've always put in the
context of good, reality based, iterative, and incremental process.

:Yes, it 
:is a fantastic technology that has helped reduce complexity in complex 
:projects (as my own 
:experience can attest).  But, vitriolic, non-elucidated replies to 'heretics'
:won't get you 
:anywhere.

I think it is highly unfair, and wrong of you to assert that anywhere
near most of my posts have been "vitriolic, non-elucidated replies".  I
think if you really read my posts you will get something useful out of
them.

: OOA/OOP is a tool in every engineer's toolkit, not an end unto itself.

It is more than a tool, it also is a philosophy, or has a philosophical
underpinning.

: 'Imagination is more important than knowledge' - Einstein

Precisely.  ;-)

Elliott