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Article #1178Re: How to improve the readability of (any) LISP or any highlevel functional language to the level of FORTH ?
From: rusi
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:49
Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2011 04:49
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On Jan 3, 6:05 pm, Tim Harig <user...@ilthio.net> wrote: > On 2011-01-03, Didier Verna <did...@lrde.epita.fr> wrote: > > > Nathan <nbeen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> Matz himself admitted that ???...Ruby is a bad rip-off of Lisp... But it > >> is nicer to ordinary people.??? > > > This misconception that you must be exceptionally clever to learn and > > use Lisp really hurts the language and the community. > > What hurts the LISP community far more is the zealotry of its members, > their insistance that LISP is the *only* tool for *every* job, and their > agressiveness in trying to push it off on to everybody else -- whether > everybody else happens want it or not. Whether this is indicitive > of the entire community or simply the result of those most apparent, > I cannot say; but, it leads to the overall impression that the LISP > community is narrowminded and neophobic. Who would want to be part of > such a community? There are more mundane reasons -- like unsuitability of lisp as a distribution platform [See http://www.newartisans.com/about-me.html where John Wiegley explains why he switched from lisp to C++ for his program ledger ]
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: rusi <rustompmody@gmail.com> Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.lisp,gnu.emacs.help,comp.lang.forth,comp.lang.prolog Subject: Re: How to improve the readability of (any) LISP or any highlevel functional language to the level of FORTH ? Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 20:49:38 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 25 Message-ID: <1fdef538-9257-4ff6-9f5b-c96883349f07@n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com> References: <80ceeca0-1d32-47d1-ba96-feb4d9729c3a@v17g2000yqv.googlegroups.com> <87pqsgk8v9.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> <ca15d8c3-86db-46fd-b35f-1a2596475769@n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com> <mux7hemmgb5.fsf@uzeb.lrde.epita.fr> <ifshjk$hqq$1@speranza.aioe.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: 116.73.35.230 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1294116578 26479 127.0.0.1 (4 Jan 2011 04:49:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 04:49:38 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: n32g2000pre.googlegroups.com; posting-host=116.73.35.230; posting-account=mBpa7woAAAAGLEWUUKpmbxm-Quu5D8ui User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe)