🚀 go-pugleaf

On 2011-01-04, D Herring <dherring@at.tentpost.dot.com> wrote:
>> On Jan 3, 6:05 pm, Tim Harig<user...@ilthio.net>  wrote:
>>> What hurts the LISP community far more is the zealotry of its members,
>>> their insistance that LISP is the *only* tool for *every* job, and their
>>> agressiveness in trying to push it off on to everybody else -- whether
>>> everybody else happens want it or not.  Whether this is indicitive
>>> of the entire community or simply the result of those most apparent,
>>> I cannot say; but, it leads to the overall impression that the LISP
>>> community is narrowminded and neophobic.  Who would want to be part of
>>> such a community?
>
> Like the dark days of apple, bsd, and linux, there can be some bizarre 
> fanboyism in the lisp community.  Geeks are always technical but often 
> not personable.

1. You imply that the worst of the zealotry for Apple, BSD, and Linux is
	over.  When is it going to be over for LISP?

2. While I would agree that the listed groups have zealots among their
	ranks; but, in my experience, most of them have resigned to the
	fact that they often have to work with other systems.  I would
	suspect that most of their members are at least as knowledgable
	about using Windows as most dedicated Windows users.  Most of
	them, when push comes to shove, will even admit that there
	are things which they admire about other operating systems,
	including Windows.

	LISP users on the other hand, never seem to be able to let
	go of LISP when the situation requires it.  To be fair, most
	newcomers to any given language will tend to let the idioms
	from their previous language bleed into the new language.
	This is an familiarity issue and most will gradually assimilate
	into the mainstream as their knowledge and experience with the
	language grows.  Ultimately their knowledge and experience in
	both langauges improves their overall abilities no matter what
	language they may happen to be using.  LISP users never seem
	to do that.  They seem to be unable, or unwilling, to learn
	anything new.