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Article #4Re: Reflective extensions (was Re: Why functional languages?)
From: Richard Brooksby
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 12:54
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 12:54
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tmb@arolla.idiap.ch (Thomas M. Breuel) wrote: > In article <RICHARD.92Oct21123440@ml.harlqn.co.uk> > richard@harlqn.co.uk (Richard Brooksby) writes: > > tmb@arolla.idiap.ch (Thomas M. Breuel) wrote some stuff about > LISP syntax for ML and how it would make syntactic extensions easier. > > You want to extend the language and make the parser extensible in > order to add new derived forms. Lisp-like syntax doesn't really > make this easier to do if one is to maintain a strong phase > distinction. > > I don't want to have to make the parser extensible in order to add > "new derived forms". That's precisely my point. *Flash* I see! (Probably.) We're talking about different things, I think. You are advocating LISP _syntax_ because it means that language extensions don't have to modify the parser _algorithm_ because all such extensions conform to a simple format. I'm talking about using LISP _data_structures_ to represent the abstract syntax for the purposes of writing functions _in_ML_ which manipulate that syntax in the manner of LISP macros. In which case, I agree with your point. A simple and regular meta-syntax such as that of LISP S-expressions makes writing what amounts to an extensible parser trivial. This is a Good Thing. I'm not sure how regular a meta-syntax of Standard ML would be for the purposes of such extensions. Any ideas? I have seen some work in this area in a Calculus of Constructions language somewhere. Can anyone come up with a reference of brief details? Are you advocating the exposure of the underlying data structure to the programmer? If so, all my objections still apply. --- Richard Brooksby <richard@harlqn.co.uk> ML Project / Symbolic Processing Division / Harlequin +44 223 872522 ext 50
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.functional Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!pipex!harlqn.co.uk!harlqn!richard From: richard@harlqn.co.uk (Richard Brooksby) Subject: Re: Reflective extensions (was Re: Why functional languages?) In-Reply-To: tmb@arolla.idiap.ch's message of 21 Oct 92 21:22:25 GMT Message-ID: <RICHARD.92Oct27125430@ml.harlqn.co.uk> Lines: 39 Sender: news@harlqn.co.uk (Usenet News Account) Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England References: <1992Sep26.212935.26809@eng.umd.edu> <1992Sep28.120225.9524@odin.diku.dk> <TMB.92Sep28144424@arolla.idiap.ch> <RICHARD.92Oct16184638@freud.harlqn.co.uk> <TMB.92Oct17172954@arolla.idiap.ch> <RICHARD.92Oct21123440@ml.harlqn.co.uk> <TMB.92Oct21172225@arolla.idiap.ch> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 1992 12:54:30 GMT