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Article #119Re: Which one for Newbie (Java - Eclipse or JBuilder)
From: Chad Myers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:41
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:41
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"Galen Boyer" <galenboyer@hotpop.com> wrote in message news:uy9cgw7ya.fsf@hotpop.com... > On Fri, 12 Jul 2002, cmyers@N0.S.P4.M.austin.rr.com wrote: > > > > Well, for me, jEdit was like Emacs without all the head-keyboard > > banging =) Emacs for Java is not that great. Every time I've worked > > with someone using Emacs for Java, the code they write is always > > messed up. > > Emacs has fantastic indentation and formatting capabilities. If you can configure it correctly, which rarely seems to be the case. I have known many-an-Emacs user and I've rarely seen code spat from their editor that looks good in anything other than Emacs. The seemingly random combination of tabs and spaces makes it incomprehensible in any other editor. <SNIP: more discussion on Emacs> I guess the main problem is not emacs, but the people using it. At any rate, Ed is the one, true, and only editor! http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html Ed man! !man Ed "Of course, on the system *I* administrate, vi is symlinked to ed. Emacs has been replaced by a shell script which 1) Generates a syslog message at level LOG_EMERG; 2) reduces the user's disk quota by 100K; and 3) RUNS ED!!!!!!" "When I use an editor, I don't want eight extra KILOBYTES of worthless help screens and cursor positioning code! I just want an EDitor!! Not a "viitor". Not a "emacsitor". Those aren't even WORDS!!!! ED! ED! ED IS THE STANDARD!!!" -c
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