Article View: comp.lang.java.advocacy
Article #239Re: This Java TRADEMARK hangup
From: Andy Moore
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 00:00
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 1997 00:00
31 lines
2735 bytes
2735 bytes
James P. White wrote... > For more details (including ISO member comments in the vote on Sun's > request to be an ISO PAS Submitter and Sun's response) see > <http://java.sun.com/aboutJava/standardization/>. Thanks for the reference. I just slogged my way through some of the various letters, focusing mostly on Sun's responses to the ISO. Even though it isn't the most fun reading, I recommend that all software engineers at least browse some of these documents, just to get a direct glimpse of how our languages and standards are hammered out... In my not-so-humble opinion, Sun seems to be trying to simultaneously do several things "right": (1) first and foremost, defend Java (the technology, not the trademark), keep it as open as possible but keep it self-consistent, elegant, help it evolve intelligently, not dilute the basic principles around which it was developed; (2) be a reasonably "good" corporate and world citizen by listening to and working with the people, companies, and organizations that use or have an interest in Java; (3) remain a successful and profitable company (which seems to make them evil in some people's eyes, but I'm glad there's a strong player to watch over Java, especially against Microsoft, who is not necessarily evil, but has a competing interest in this whole issue: operating systems). These are some tricky issues to balance, and Sun may not always be able to make everyone happy, but I commend them for at least trying... I would be comfortable with the Java(tm) platform (as a whole!) becoming an ISO standard, with Sun as the facilitating organization. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andy Moore atmoore@concentric.net http://www.concentric.net/~atmoore
Technical Details
Message-ID:
<34291E21.7BBA@concentric.net>Path:
arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!unknown!not-for-mailReferences:
<3427C291.2554@fbc.org> <34282515.B453CF10@pagesmiths.com>Show Full Headers
Complete Article Headers
X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5a547f7fdc452adc X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 1025b4,5a547f7fdc452adc X-Google-Attributes: gid1025b4,public X-Google-Thread: 139de8,5a547f7fdc452adc X-Google-Attributes: gid139de8,public X-Google-Thread: f6653,5a547f7fdc452adc X-Google-Attributes: gidf6653,public X-Google-Thread: 10ce84,5a547f7fdc452adc X-Google-Attributes: gid10ce84,public X-Google-Thread: f5d71,5a547f7fdc452adc X-Google-Attributes: gidf5d71,public From: Andy Moore <atmoore@concentric.net> Subject: Re: This Java TRADEMARK hangup Date: 1997/09/24 Message-ID: <34291E21.7BBA@concentric.net> X-Deja-AN: 275223326 References: <3427C291.2554@fbc.org> <34282515.B453CF10@pagesmiths.com> Reply-To: atmoore@concentric.net Organization: Concentric Internet Services Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.lang.java,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.std.misc,comp.std,comp.sys.sun.misc