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Article #55Re: Which one for Newbie (Java - Eclipse or JBuilder)
From: Chad Myers
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:11
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 17:11
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"Trent" <trentallenblack@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:19d1da79.0207182033.565eb8e0@posting.google.com... > I am thinking that maybe you should go with Metrowerks "Codewarrior 7". > I say this so we can get another 500 posts to topic. > > In my learning of Java in the last year: > > -JBuilder 3.5 was slow as a dog for development. > -IBM's Visual Age is a little complicated, and well, IBM style. > -Eclipse is really cool, except you have to know > how the code. > -I tried the Symantic, visual something I think. And it bombed and > bombed and bombed, and bombed some more. Symantic sold it to another > company, and gave me some new stuff. And my machine never recoved from > more death crashes. It was called Visual Cafe, but it's owned by BEA now, I think. At any rate, Symantec sold it to someone else who has slightly improved it and added a bunch of new EJB/enterprise tools. It still easily earns the name "Visual Crashe" though. > -I never tried the SUN tools. You're not missing much. What about jEdit, damnit! jEdit owns! Eclipse is good too. Both are for experienced Java programmers who just want to code and don't need any stupid wizards or fancy (read: slow) GUIs to get in their way. But, I still maintain that Ed is the one, true Editor: http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed.msg.html -c
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