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Re: "Real Programmers use Notepad" ?!

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From: Phillip Lord
Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 00:00
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>>>>> "cgwool" == cgwool  <cgwool@my-deja.com> writes:

  cgwool> Oh please, real programmers use whatever tool allows them go
  cgwool> get the job done in the quickest time with the least amount
  cgwool> of typos.  If you think that is Notepad, vi, emacs, or any
  cgwool> of the other 'dumb' text editors, then you are not real
  cgwool> programmers, you are real idiots.

        The first part of this makes a lot of sense. Use whatever tool
you find appropriate. The idea however that you know better than
others which tool this is I cant accept. 

        I know some excellent programmers who use vi, including some
of the more famous in the world. I even knew one who used edit on
windows. Then he used PFE, and I finally got him onto emacs.

        For me emacs is the way forward for three reasons. Firstly what
I dont like, I can change. Secondly its cross platform. Thirdly its
works for any language, and I write in many. A lot of the tools (like
version control support) I use in all, and I see no reason why I
should waste time learning how different systems do their version
control, when I can use one tool integrated into what I want. 

        Dont get me wrong here, I am grateful that the java support
for emacs is the most advanced that Ive seen for any language, thanks
to the JDE. I dont eschew advanced tools out of pique, but in many
cases out of active choice, because they are often a lot less than
they are cracked up to be.

        I also ride a bicycle rather than drive a car for much the
same reason...

        Phil
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From: Phillip Lord <plord@hgmp.mrc.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: "Real Programmers use Notepad" ?!
Date: 2000/02/11
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