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In article <4jrlou$l8a@netope.harvard.edu> curt_springer@hms.med.harvard.edu (Curt Springer) writes:
   In article <4jr7gf$dc6@nyheter.chalmers.se>, ei39594@ios.chalmers.se says...

   [...]

   >BTW, I have using C/C++ the past 5-6 years. NOTHING will replace a 
   >language like this since you can do EVERYTHING in C (e.i. VERY low level 
   >stuff).
   [...]
   >Arash

   Yeah, EVERYTHING, like setting pointers beyond the ends of arrays.

Indeed...

   Seriously, what low-level stuff (don't talk about multiple inheritance) is in 
   c/c++ and not in Java that _you_ _need_ (not _want_) to do, in real life?  
   How many people are there in the same situation?  What percentage of the 
   population are you?

How about the ability to create new value types? Not necessarily low-level, as 
Ada 95, Eiffel, and Sather allow this, yet prevent the pointer madness of C and 
C++ (please, there is no language "C/C++"). 

Who needs this? Anyone who needs fast, compact arrays of user defined elements. 
This means anyone who needs to write numerical methods, signal processing, and 
certain fast graphics algorithms in the language. What percentage of the population 
are we? Insignificantly small. What percentage of the "programing population" 
are we? We'll find out, as more people try to use Java in general applications. 

We are already seeing the complaints on this newsgroup :-)

   --Curt