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In article <denatale-0804960926250001@grail1213.nando.net>,
denatale@nando.net (Rick DeNatale) wrote:

> In article <31684F33.2528@ibm.net>, Ernie Wright <javaguy@ibm.net> wrote:
>
>> How do you think JAVA will fare when it has 16 years under its belt like
>> Smalltalk, really.......look how fast this is happening, aren't at least
>> interested in it since you are in this forum?
>
> But Smalltalk has really had more than 24 years under it's belt, and has
> only really been widely available for less than half of that time.  It had
> a chance to mature and become coherent and mature in a nurturing
> environment before it had to face the cold cruel world.

Sounds like an "academics vs. commercial" argument to me.  I know Java
doesn't have any applications of note to point to, at least not yet, but
in the (eight?, ten? how many?) years since Smalltalk has been "widely
available", what widely available, successful applications have been
implemented in Smalltalk?  This is a reasonable measure of the success and
usefulness of a language, or at least of its commercial viability.

Doug Bell
dbell@shvn.com